“Six Strikes†Anti-Piracy Scheme Starts Today (yesterday), With Mystery Punishments

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  1. dude

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    Today the controversial “six-strikes†anti-piracy system kicks off in the United States. Soon the first BitTorrent users will receive so-called copyright alerts from their Internet provider and after multiple warnings subscribers will be punished. But, what these punishments entail remains a bit of a mystery. None of the participating ISPs have officially announced how they will treat repeat infringers and the CCI doesn’t have this information either.

    http://torrentfreak.com/six-strikes-anti-piracy-scheme-starts-130225/
     
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    I'm afraid to comment considering the strict file sharing rule here. HaVe a haPpy Night.
     
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    So funny that Jewlywood is worried about people ripping off their new shit movies. I don't even download that shit for free, just old ones back when movies were good.

    I'd say after 5 strikes just change your ISP. :jj: :fuckyou:
     
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    I'm confused about this.

    Are these the same people who monitored BitTorrent traffic before?

    Or are they using a new method to track scofflaws?

    In other words, will they be doing anything special starting this week as far as seeking out offenders is concerned?

    Or is it the same old same old?
     
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    And you be sure to have a happy night in a country that doesn't care about U.S. subpoenas, like China for instance. While you're in China, you may want to be doubly safe and check out alt.fan.tv.twin-peaks or other very interesting news groups that are chock full of cherry pie, black coffee and other useful things.
     
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    This is only for discussion purposes and not mention of any specific sites. Nor is it encouraging anyone to do anything illegal. Only warning against it and bringing attention to a subject that might interest some users here. I neither confirm nor deny using any services, allegedly.
     
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    This is totally different. Copyright Trolls are scumbag attorneys who track your IP and file lawsuits on behalf of porn producers and music/film/etc. copyright holders. Six Strikes is the ISP throttling your bandwith and eventually disconnecting your service.
     
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    :iohi5:
     
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    Yep, before it was some scumbag with a cocaine problem and a law degree trying to make a quick buck through a partnership extortion scheme with the music and movie industry. Now it's the industry, working with your isp to discourage you from filesharing by slowing your internet speeds and blocking access to what sites you can visit.
     
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    No, my question is will the copyright trolls be doing anything differently this week? Or is it the same old same same old?
     
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    This does not affect them one iota. Read fightcopyrightrolls.com and dietrolldie.com to find out more about it; they are still filing new suits fast and furious, though Prenda Law (one of the worst firms) is on thin ice right now.
     
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    It looks like they will be running software on bit torrent. They will report any ip address they find downloading content they own and since they have a deal in place with the major ISP's, they will have a streamlined process by which to alert you that they "are on to you" and that they will "punish you" or release your info for civil lawsuits.
     
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    Just to clarify a bit more, it's a nuanced process. Copyright Trolls come in two forms: Those who wish to gain money and STOP piracy, and those who wish to gain money and AID piracy.

    Group 1: Someone like Books for Dummies. They will work with the ISP, and use these cash default judgments as a deterrent. Basically, legit businesses.

    Group 2: Porn Producers, Low Budget Music Labels, Independent Film Studios, etc. They intentionally seed their own content (and thereby get your IP when you download from them and other seeders) to facilitate lawsuits. They do not use the streamlined process with the ISP, but use court subpoenas to force the ISP to hand your information over and bypass Six Strikes altogether. Your first warning in this case will probably be a lawsuit.
     
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    Thanks for posting that. I didn't even consider (although I guess you're probably close to 100% right?) that there will still be issues of scumbag lawyers trying to make a buck outside of this new system that is in place. Although it appears at least that the major industries are going along with this MPAA RIAA etc, I guess it won't stop a smaller lawyer or group from doing what they do?

    Anyway, best to be aware and alert. Who knows how much proof an ISP will require before they decide you can no longer stream a youtube video in HD.
     
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    It won't, unfortunately. All it takes is a dumb/unscrupulous person with a JD and porn producer desperate for cash to make it work. In the case of Prenda Law, who I mentioned, the attorney was dropped by his porn clients and is now financing his own porn that he can upload and sue over. There is also an odd Richard Christy connection; a Copyright Troll helped finance the band Iced Earth's latest album (not featuring Richard) and promptly sued all who downloaded it via BitTorrent.

    Six Strikes is the equivalent of DRM and region coding; it's an industry standard, but there's nothing to stop you from releasing your own content on a region free DVD-R if you so choose. In the same way, if you are truly a part of the industry (i.e. a major studio/record label) you are going to go along with Six Strikes because it will help to stop piracy while not turning the public totally against you. But, those who are outside of the loop (as in those who need Troll lawsuits to make an income) are not going along and there is nothing the ISPs can do to make them. The only way to force Copyright Trolls to work with the ISPs is for the FCC or congress to get involved.

    Having said all that, some cable providers have fought back against the Trolls and won (thereby not handing over customer info). A great example is Buckeye Cable, who have steadfastly refused to hand over anything. I would encourage people to vote with their wallet, and subscribe to ISPs who will fight for you and your rights. What remains to be seen is if the other ISPs who have gladly forked over information will fight back against Copyright Trolls in court to strengthen (and gain public support for) Six Strikes now that the playing field has changed.
     
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    "As we reported previously, Internet providers will have to inform copyright holders about which IP-addresses are repeatedly flagged. The MPAA and RIAA can then use this information to ask the court for a subpoena, so they can obtain the personal details of the account holder."

    :secret: Hex edit your machine address (MAC) to get a new IP every day.

    [​IMG]
     
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    That's better than nothing, but still doesn't make you fully secure by any means. Any MAC address can be linked back to you unless the person doing forensics is a total idiot. Anything less than 256 bit Open VPN or L2TP/IPSEC encrypted VPN routed through servers on another continent doesn't cut it in my book, but that's just me.
     
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    How hard is it?
    Use USENET + SSL encryption. I DL 3-4 terra byte each month since the year 1997. They cant do anything, since they cant see what I DL.

    To many newbies with unencrypted torrent clients.
    And when will the movie industry understand that 99% of all users have DHCP? Logging IP addresses are meaningless. It can be anyone.
    + For the first time in over 10 years, the music industry grew last year. Make stuff cheap and without DRM and people will buy it. Spending 30 dollars on a shitty bluray will never be mainstream.

    (And all studies have shown that piracy does not hurt the movie/software/music industry. Retards like Howard believe that if 1000 people DL private parts, he "looses" X amount of dollars. In real life: People have X amount of money. They would never have bought Private parts. So Howard lost zero dollars, but got free advertising. All studies shows that piracy impact revenue by 3-5%. Thats nothing when idiots like Howard is payed billions.)
     
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    Well yeah, but I doubt someone is going to do forensics for someone who downloads an old movie once in a blue moon like me.
    The ONLY way to be untraceable is to use public or stolen wifi from a clean laptop (no logins to any personal accounts).
    I really wouldn't put much trust in these VPN networks either. Anything that is encrypted can be unencrypted.
     
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    I'm with you, but at some point it becomes a cost/benefit analysis. I personally don't illegally download, but I'm none too keen on being tracked online or risking someone leaching my Wifi and opening me up to Copyright Trolls unknowingly. You can hard break WEP encryption in about 3 hours using a free program, but the odds that your average WiFi leacher is going to be enough of a dick to go through all that to download on my connection, and THEN that my ISP or a Copyright Troll will break my encryption or try to subpoena my records from my Chinese VPN are pretty much nil. It works for my purposes, anyway.