Discussion in 'The Howard Stern Show' started by eliasbboy, Mar 25, 2016.
I always said it was a remake of the very first one.
When I watched The Force Awakens and the words "STAR WARS" burst onto the screen and traveled into the distance I said to myself "I know I've seen that somewhere before."
Now I know where. Thanks. Wow, no originality at all.
The movie made no sense and overall sucked. Kylo Ren was some hipster/goth kid. And somehow luke's daughter within 40 seconds of seeing someone else use the force can also master it.
Not to mention she is also the greatest lightsaber fighter in the universe even though it takes people years of training to even use one without cutting of their legs minus Luke, the most powerful jedi ever.
The entire movie was a play it safe while screaming DIVERSITY and FEMINISM piece of crap. But still 1000000x better than 1-3.
I liked Force Awakens.
I know they went out of their way to reflect back on previous themes, perhaps a bit too much, but that is a concept use din movies all the time. Godfather, Indiana Jones, and many many other movie franchises tie their movies together with almost carbon copy scene blocking and iconic shots.
Every move has legitimate flaws, but imho I'd hardly call it a remake. The basic adventure story has been told for centuries. Star Wars was the same as Harry Potter, was the same as Lord of the Rings, etc. etc. All of those movies have the exact same theme and core story, but are vastly different.
I'm clearly in the minority here. I'm just a Star Wars geek that was thrilled they didn't dip as low on the shit scale as the prequels.
I'm glad people enjoyed it. I mean that. But I found it flat. Not bad. Just flat. It didn't reach any grand moments. It didn't have the lows of the prequels but it didn't have the highs either. For example, The Phantom Menace was mostly boring. But they brought it during the lightsaber battle. And John Williams did some very heavy lifting with Duel of the Fates.
The Force Awakens didn't have any cringe inducing moments like Clones' "I don't like sand" speech. It didn't drag like the Tatooine adventure in Menace. But it didn't dare to go anywhere new either. And there isn't one moment that got the hairs standing up on my arms. I remember being in the theatre to see Jurassic World and as I was in the lobby I could hear the music from the scene in which Yoda lifts the X-Wing out of the swamp. Anything in this picture that is that grandiose? Nope.
But again, I'm glad so many enjoyed it.
You know, you have a lot of great points. There are no real big stand out moments, even for me. I guess my expectations were so low I was happy to see anything tolerable.
they weren't dumb
dummies try to re-invent the wheel
I loved every minute of it. Saw it twice.
It's funny how people complain about "far-fetched" things in a fucking science-fiction fantasy film.
Get over yourself, lighten up and enjoy I say.
Not being contemptuous of "New Hope", just find this interesting
I liked it.
Probably BECAUSE it borrowed so much from ep IV.
Unlike 1-3 that tried to change the formula
The best moment for me was
Spoiler: Yeah, I'm a nice enough guy to put tags on a December release
the reveal of the Falcon in the junkyard.
I like Harrison Ford.
I think killing him off is shortsighted. Granted, I don't know how willing the man was to do several of these things. But put me in the camp that says you don't rid yourself of your A+ player.
And something else just occurred to me after bringing up John Williams. The last truly memorable piece I heard from him is Buckbeats's Flight from Harry Potter and the Prisoner of Azakaban - 12 years ago. Maybe he has his own creative struggles. Or maybe he's just fine and I'm being picky.
It was definitely way overrated in the post-mortem analysis.
The diversity shit was just way over the top hollyweird pandering...
they didn't F' it up & that was the goal. I saw it twice in theater and enjoyed it more the 2nd time than the first. the next 2 movies are the ones to do something new and exciting in. I want to see where they take Luke in this because I dont think they will allow the character to just be a throw-away. I will be glad when my Blu-ray shows up on the 5th.
Lucas was a big fan of those old movies and he openly acknowledges that he modeled a lot of the aerial action on them. In fact, the turret gunner scenes in the Falcon were exact recreations of real dogfight footage.