1990 Cy Young winner bites dust

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  1. zhukov

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    Goodnight, funnyman...

    Some sad news: former Dodgers and Athletics pitcher Bob Welch died today. He was 57-years-old. No cause of death has yet been reported.

    Welch debuted for the Dodgers in 1978. He made national fame when he struck out Reggie Jackson with two on and two out in the top of the ninth inning to end Game 2 of the 1978 World Series, giving the Dodgers a two games to zero lead. Welch was just 21 at the time and Jackson was a year removed from his three-homer performance against the Dodgers in the 1977 Series. It was a big deal.
    If Welch had done nothing else in his career he’d probably still be remembered for that. But of course he did much. He won 211 games over 17 seasons, starting 462 of his 506 games. He was a reliable and often very good rotation starter for some very good Dodgers teams. He moved upstate to Oakland for the 1988 season and on through the rest of his career, which ended when the 1994-95 strike began.
    His best season is one everyone remembers: 1990, when he went 27-6 for the AL Champion Athletics, winning the Cy Young Award. It stands as the most wins since Steve Carlton won 27 in 1972. The last time anyone won more was when Denny McLain won 31 in 1968. No pitcher has won as many as 25 since Welch did it in 1990. Welch ended his career with a record of 211-146 and an ERA of 3.47. He struck out 1,969 batters and walked 1,034 in 3,092 innings. He had 28 shutouts and 61 career complete games.
    Welch wrote a book after he retired about his battles with alcoholism during his career and was always frank about how it nearly derailed that career in the 1980s. He was the pitching coach for the Arizona State Sun Devils and then, for one year, coached the pitchers for the Diamondbacks when they won the World Series in 2001. He remained in Arizona in various coaching, scouting and advising capacities over the past several years.
    RIP Bob.
     
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    died of bob welch's disease.
     
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    No cause = drug overdose usually or drinking too much
     
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    I heard it was a heart attack
     
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    Bob :belch:
     
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    Did he own Welchs grape juice
     
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    Awesome post, shit mult.:rolleyes:
     
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    i remember watching that at bat against Jackson :grouch:
     
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    He won 27 games with a great offense. Clemens' ERA was a full run lower but lost to Welch because Welch had more run support and won more games. That's why I don't pay much attention to win-loss records.
     
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    Clemens could never beat Dave Stewart in the play offs. always a run short
     
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    Not his fault his team didn't score runs.
     
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    Steroid damage ...Just wait & see
     
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    he's dead.
     
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    Clemens was the better pitcher that year for sure. He should've won a few more Cy Youngs. He was pretty good in 1992 and 2005 as well. Wins finally mean less. Verlander won 24 games during his Cy Young season. Had a .092 WHIP, led baseball in strikeouts and threw 251 innings. Welch' s season was 238 innings, 1.21 WHIP, and a lot less strikeouts. His strikeout to walk ratio was a pedestrian 2/1. Verlander' s was 4/1. Nice feat for Welch winning 27 but it wasn't the greatest season pitched even during his career.
     
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    That's what I mean. W-L doesn't really indicate how well you pitch. You can lose a game 1-0 then go out the next night and win 8-7.
     
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    Slightly off topic but did you see this throw from Yoenis Céspedes tonight?

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    I'm still cleaning the shit from my pants over this.