2-Day Work Week Only Because Sirius Demanded Salary Cut?

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  1. Peau de Soie

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    This seems almost blindingly obvious but I never heard it put quite this way before. isabella floated a theory over at http://www.dawgsaloon.com/showthrea...means-I-have-to-work-when-it-s-a-day-off-quot

    as follows:

    It makes SO much sense. Why would he want to "cut down" on his work week that much, and "be thinking about retiring", and yet still sign for 2-3 days per week, all the while loudly proclaiming he would NEVER take a pay cut?

    Sirius must have come to him with the much lower offer, and he only agreed if he were allowed to reduce his schedule to keep his hourly rate close to the same... And they had no better ideas (because businesses are generally run by idiots). Thus the strict 10 AM cutoffs and other reductions in service Howard inflicted on subscribers -- he's still pissed about the pay cut, even with the reduced hours.

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    I'm pretty sure Howard has said outright before, that Sirius wanted him to come back and he then negotiated a new "flexible" schedule... using his logic that it is better to have some howard than none.

    He didn't mention the paycut, but obviously that probably played a role.
     
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    Not really new, this theory got kicked around at SFN when he re-signed his second contract. Was generally accepted that he took a 20% cut in pay, 100 mil down to 80 mil before the "running the show expenses". Thought he'd drop one day a week off the contract to keep his hourly rate about same, so to speak, not the two days he seems to have managed to pull off. At this point, hourly, he's probably managed to work it out in his head that he got a raise.
     
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    exactly this
     
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    Except it was said, on the WUS I think, that he the money to run the channels, salaries and overhead, were not part of his money, they were seperate. It was during the discussion of HowardTV budget and station budget.
     
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    No matter what the reason is for his 4 day work week being changed to a 3 day work week and now a 2 day work week, the end result is the same...the listeners are getting screwed. I, for one, am outraged that we got sold a bill of goods when he signed to Sirius that he would be on the air 5 days a week and now so many years later, we get 2 days a week. His credibility and loyalty to his listeners is a sham and the only reason he isn't out of a job at Sirius is probably due to the fact that they are hoping his gig on AGT will bring over new listeners. Both Stern and Sirius should be ashamed of themselves.
     
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    Yep. I also said this back at SFN.
     
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    Thanks.

    I'm still thinking it had to be more than a 20% cut for him to proactively make the show so aggressively and spitefully bad, to the point it finally drove me away.
     
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    So true.
     
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    You can bet that his personal expenses have been front and center on his mind, with all the nit-picking about an orange juice, and shrunken shirts! In his mind, if he can't keep up the same income stream, he is heading for the poor house! He has gone from asking everyone during an interview, "What do you make?", to asking them "Don't you really feel that it's not enough".
     
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    Yes! Where is our subscription reduction!
     
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    the only problem with your theory is your assumption that the deal was contingent on working 3 days. my opinion is that sirius said 2 days at a 2 day salary. he was never given a 3 day option.:coffee:
     
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    I still want to know if the staff is being paid like they are working a full year. I can tell you right now with all the days off Jackie never would of quit if they were paying him a full salary.
     
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    While there are those who argued with it, it was clear from the revealed (in the lawsuit) first contract that the money to run the show came from Howard, sort of a give back to Sirius so that Marble Man could keep his hands clean and claim he wasn't BOFF, and in charge of salaries and programming expenses.
     
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    All Howard Stern listeners should get recompensed by free subscriptions to the premium package...I know, nice try right?
     
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    Better not let Jeton catch wind of this.

    He will never admit Howie took a penny less tan 500 million. No pay cuts for the kind according the the scumbag that spreads HIV with unprotected sex
     
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    Booey gave it away with his fuck up at the end of last year, when Howie was complaining about having to work the extra day in order not to violate the contract. On TWUS, he said the new contract calls for X # of live shows per year, X being somewhere around 120.

    In theory, if Howie wanted, he could do 5 day weeks until he hit his # of live shows for the year, and then take the rest of the year off. Unless the contract calls for him to spread the days out over all 12 months.
     
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    We need to kill the myth about Howard paying the show expenses.
    The old Sirius contract is online. Just read it.

    The first contract 100 million was "leaked" by Sirius since they had to disclose this expense to shareholders. The strange thing about the second contract is that SiriusXM have not disclosed how much Howard is payed.

    Howard is payed a flat fee to Howard's company for minimum X show, starting at 06.00 AM, minimum x Weeks, have to be live. The first contract gave him on average about 130 million/year including the bonuses. Howard license his show exclusive to Sirius(XM). Howard have never been a "partner" to Sirius.
    For the new contract the rumor is that Howard got a huge pay cut. Since Howard is irrelevant, he cant get any more subscriber bonuses. He can't generate any new listeners. However, Howard managed to make some money on the internet rights for his show and he probably had a bonus clause for the SiriusXM App. (that is the reason for plugging the F out of the App).

    Howard's company did take a huge paycut, if you count in bonuses. From 130 million to 80 million. In return Howard shaved off 1 hour minimum show time and reduced the number of shows he have to make. Howard have said on air how many shows he have to make. I don't remember the exact number, but it was about 130 shows/year.

    Gary, Robin, Fred are employes of SiriusXM. About half of Howard's crew is hired by HowardTV/DirectTV.
    The THSS have a show budget from SiriusXM. This is money beside Howard's license fee. From this pool of money the salaries for all other employes are payed.

    This structure is also one of the reason why they don't hire a new "Artie". Sirius is pissed at Howard and don't want to spend more money. They think that Howard should use money from the show budget. Howard don't want to use the Show money, since this is "his" money. Howard uses the "show" money to be a generous boss and have a Christmas party and other generous stuff. ;)
     
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    We need to kill the myth about Howard paying the show expenses.
    The old Sirius contract is online. Just read it.

    The first contract 100 million was "leaked" by Sirius since they had to disclose this expense to shareholders. The strange thing about the second contract is that SiriusXM have not disclosed how much Howard is payed.

    Howard is payed a flat fee to Howard's company for minimum X show, starting at 06.00 AM, minimum x Weeks, have to be live. The first contract gave him on average about 130 million/year including the bonuses. Howard license his show exclusive to Sirius(XM). Howard have never been a "partner" to Sirius.
    For the new contract the rumor is that Howard got a huge pay cut. Since Howard is irrelevant, he cant get any more subscriber bonuses. He can't generate any new listeners. However, Howard managed to make some money on the internet rights for his show and he probably had a bonus clause for the SiriusXM App. (that is the reason for plugging the F out of the App).

    Howard's company did take a huge paycut, if you count in bonuses. From 130 million to 80 million. In return Howard shaved off 1 hour minimum show time and reduced the number of shows he have to make. Howard have said on air how many shows he have to make. I don't remember the exact number, but it was about 130 shows/year.

    Gary, Robin, Fred are employes of SiriusXM. About half of Howard's crew is hired by HowardTV/DirectTV.
    The THSS have a show budget from SiriusXM. This is money beside Howard's license fee. From this pool of money the salaries for all other employes are payed.

    This structure is also one of the reason why they don't hire a new "Artie". Sirius is pissed at Howard and don't want to spend more money. They think that Howard should use money from the show budget. Howard don't want to use the Show money, since this is "his" money. Howard uses the "show" money to be a generous boss and have a Christmas party and other generous stuff. ;)
     
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    Sauce on side?