News A fate worse than death...

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  1. ApeFace

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    Was reading some stuff about Tool and some of their lyrics. Somebody referenced this guys story about the song "prison sex". Apparently this guy got buttfucked literally nonstop. Can't even imagine how you go on living after this. This type of shit didn't even happen on Oz. Reminds me of some of these honkys screaming black lives matter to show how enlightened they are.


    An activist for gay rights, Stephen Donaldson founded a "homophile" society at Columbia University. "Homophile" was used in place of "homosexual" to put a greater emphasis on love as opposed to sexuality. He went on to found more chapters of gay rights organizations at other universities, and continued his activism throughout the 1970s, also experimenting with LSD and founding a "psychedelic church" for guiding first-time acid users. Somehow he managed to join the Navy even after all of this, and served honorably, though he was discharged when his orientation became publicly known. He at least got an honorable discharge.

    Then he began identifying as bisexual rather than gay, and began a campaign of activism for bisexuals' rights. He joined the Quakers and renounced his affiliation with earlier gay rights groups.

    As a Quaker, he protested what he saw as the evil of the American prison system. Here is where his story takes an unfortunate turn. After being arrested at a protest - "against the bail system, under which the privileged, the white, the middle class escape the pre-trial confinements which go automatically to the poor and black." In a horrifyingly ironic twist, he wound up getting orally and anally raped by an estimated 45 black male inmates at the jail where he was held. He

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    I’d say overall, maybe a third of the guys went up my ass, and the rest of them got head....There was a lot of variation in the reaction. Some guys were really, uh, were really rough, and they’d make racial comments, for example, ‘Your ass belongs to the black man. Don’t you ever forget it.’ Stuff like that, you know. Other guys would be just the opposite, they’d be callin’ me by their girlfriend’s name, especially if they were fucking me, and they’d, like, lick the back of my neck and they’d lick my ear lobes, which is, I guess, what they do with girls. You know, just perceive me as a girl substitute. And some of ’em would stay inside me after they came off for a while, which I discovered was a very welcome relief, ’cause since they weren’t moving, it wasn’t hurting, and it kept everybody else from gettin’ on me.”

    escaped from his tormentors, two of whom were selling him for cigarettes to the others, and collapsed, sobbing, at the cell block gate, where guards retrieved him.
    Unbelievably (or perhaps, believably,) Donaldson did not want to punish the men who raped him. He said:

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    I was faced with an awful decision: to cooperate in the prosecution of the two young inmates who had led the rapes, to bring suit against the Corrections Department, or to drop out of the legal process.

    The prospect of giving my assailants a still longer prison term went contrary to [my deep convictions]. Yet many who were working to change the penal system felt that the first prosecution of a prison rape case would set a significant precedent and have a real deterrent effect on such situations in the future.
    Ultimately, he brought neither civil or criminal charges against his rapists. The injuries to his rectum were so severe that he required surgery at the Washington D.C. Veterans Hospital.

    Apparently, the gang rape had a profound effect on Donny - it led to him ultimately accepting the role of "punk" and even enjoying it. During his subsequent incarceration, he assumed a sexually submissive role to four Marines, who provided him with protection and snacks in exchange for blowjobs and "pussy" (their term for anal sex.) Later, when he was released from prison, he actually deliberately got himself arrested again - he wanted to continue being a "punk". He wanted, in his own words, "to find myself being wanted and needed, to find the warm security I had experienced with the Marines in the county jail."

    His attempt at being arrested again was a success and he was gang-raped again, this time by a group of black inmates who paid five dollars for him. But this time he apparently didn't like it anymore, being "paralyzed with terror" and abandoning his Quaker beliefs, fighting back against his attackers. Then he entered into a consensual sexual relationship with another inmate - and found a newcomer who he coerced into being his own punk. The rapee was now the rapist. Donny wrote: "For the most part, the exhilaration of demonstrating my masculinity, of conquest, of sexual release swept those reservations aside. Somewhere deep in my soul, I suppose, there lurks a jailhouse rapist."

    Eventually after his incarceration was finally over (and after several more incidents of being arrested and jailed) he became an activist against prison rape. He eventually died of AIDS in 1996 - the disease supposedly contracted at his first rape in the DC jail. (I did not realize that AIDS was common in 1973.)

    What an utterly bizarre case. Was this man afflicted by some form of mental illness that drove him to put himself in situations where he would be raped? Is there a technical term for the kind of condition he had, or was it simply a very twisted and tangled inner psyche that was the product of his own horrific experiences? A form of "Stockholm Syndrome?" I'm not sure exactly what to say about this other than that I was quite disturbed to read it.
     
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    That was way more than 40 pounds of rape.

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    Is this rape, or rape rape?
     
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    Sounds like heaven on earth for @Ving
     
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    I think the technical term for it would be "he likes taking it up the ass and giving blowjobs"
     
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    I thought those kind of things didn't happen in lockup. Sounds like BS
     
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    Good grief..

    At what point does "activism" supersede self preservation?

    This reminds me of the European woman who was raped by a Syrian refugee and refused to report him/press charges because she'd been such a champion of the refugees she'd be seen as a hypocrite.

    Something was wrong with that guys brain before he went to jail the first time. And I don't mean being gay. His quotient for reason was skewed. Maybe due to heavy LSD use?

    It's an interesting story though. I had no idea that's what "Prison Sex" was about, although it does give new meaning to the line "I have found some kind of temporary sanity in this shit, blood and cum on my hands."
     
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    I don't know if the song is as literal as that. Someone mentioned this story in the comments and I assumed it was bullshit. Looked up the guys story and it was true. He was definitely fucked in the head. He said the guys tricked him by luring him into a cell to discuss pacifism. Because I'm sure deep philosophical discussions happen a lot in prison. In between getting turned into a human toilet bowl.
     
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    A friend of mine went into this long back story about the song 46 & 2 ...cant remember a word he said about it, but evidently there is a back story to the lyrics..and im way too lazy to research it
     
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    reminds move of the show 'The Night Of' ..Naz is fucked
     
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    For a gay man, I'm sure there are far worse things than being gang raped in a prison by 45 well hung Black men. Then again, isn't that how Paul Lynde died?
     
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