AGT Prize Lump Sum Is Approximately 200 K, Other Parts of the Ripoff

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  1. BeerCanThick

    BeerCanThick Well-Known Member

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    Man, imagine if you were in an ensemble group and you didn't want to get shafted with a 40 year annuity and took the lump sum.
    50 grand doesn't seem like a "grand prize" to me. I know the show does shit numbers in the 18-49 demo but more than 10 million
    people watch it. You think they'd be able to assemble something a little more impressive than "not as much money as the state pick 5 lottery."

    Winners cannot go on other shows for a year with NBC approval and NBC can have contestants do an NBC reality t.v. show if they so choose.

    Another frequently reported thing? AGT agents can tell people to do whatever they want with their backstory, even if it would be defamatory, embarrassing
    and false. One person who I think has had this happen to him was Tim Poe, who said he was an Afghanistan war veteran who had been subject to a grenade attack.
    Of course he was vilified as a Stolen Valor faker and all around scumbag, but was that AGT? Was that really Tim Poe's idea or was he put up to it?
    The contract states that NBC can "fictionalize" people's backstories, even in ways that could cause "humiliation."

    So when you sign the contract, people can reveal or relate defamatory, disparaging, embarrassing and unfavorable information about you that doesn't even have to be true.
    Signing this is like,

    "I am your complete ho. I am your bottom bitch. I give you the total freedom to libel and slander me as you please."

    http://www.americasgottalentauditio...ion_Release_for_All_Auditions_Eligibility.pdf
     
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    Nemo Beer Can Thick Gold

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    The show is so so horribly scripted....especially the back stories.

    Does anyone believe that Nick disappeared for an hour to get into his mime outfit and the judges didn't know?
    I've seen a couple of writes applauding the awesome prank.
    Nick the mime was obviously a black guy but he used a white voice?
    Imagine if a white guy did a negro dialect??



    #nigga-please
     
  3. Dirty South

    Dirty South Large Member

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    Listen, it's a whole thing.

    I'm a team player, Robin.

    If these contestant FUCKS cannot get on board then FUCK THEM.

    Bobo, you're on the air. :shitcoffee:
     
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    BeerCanThick Well-Known Member

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    http://www.scribd.com/doc/134719192/AGT-Contract

    There is the full contract.

    I find it particularly lovely that people have to waive the right to sue for mental or physical harm that came about due to gross negligence and willful misconduct.
    That is pretty sweet. For NBC.

    As is the deal to "reality holds" that mean they get to make people go on reality t.v. for a year afterwards. The agency hold/exclusive management deal is
    pretty juicy, too. I wonder how much prize money that costs, the sick fucks. They have all of their little fees at the end. 5 grand here, 15 grand there...
     
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    Nemo Beer Can Thick Gold

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    Whatever Howard gets involved with the peasants are getting pissed on and fucked over.
     
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    jimbronie Well-Known Member

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    These stipulations could have a lot to do with the lack of any real takent walking through their doors.

    I doubt this contract is that much different than any of the other competition show's contracts. But anyone who has real talent and has someone grooming that talent is probably staying away from the shows.

    Also some of this bs in the contract has a lot to do with terry Fator. The ventriloquist who won a few years back. Simon couldn't fathom Terry getting any kind of real paying contract so he let him out. Low and behold a few weeks later Terry signed a 100 mil contract at one of the Vegas casinos. Simon lost out on his cut. Neither him or NBC will ever let that happen again.
     
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    Mr Pink Well-Known Member

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    Doubt that would stand up in court. You can't bind someone to a contract stipulation which is illegal or unconscionable, even if they signed off on it.

    Killing someone on set because of gross negligence (eg: knowingly and intentionally using substandard/unsafe equipment) is manslaughter at the very least, isn't it?
     
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    it should be 1 million bucks, AFTER taxes and in one lump sum.

    they probably spend more than that on 5 seconds of advertising.
     
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    greyt Well-Known Member

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    wait, i changed my mind....none of those talentless attention whore contestants should get a cent
     
  10. broccoli rob

    broccoli rob thanks for the memories DW3

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    the biggest success from AGT is this guy :facepalm:
    [video=youtube;_fRQWkVosqQ]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_fRQWkVosqQ[/video]

    the only person I have ever seen on AGT that I thought should be in Vegas is the black dude that sang Sinatra.
    [video=youtube;HYu5qVJmlr0]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HYu5qVJmlr0[/video]
    2:22... I don't think I could sit through a concert with him, but he'd make an incredible lounge singer.
     
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    BeerCanThick Well-Known Member

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    But just the idea that they'd try to insulate themselves for culpability of egregious mental and physical harm, to include death, even if it was from gross negligence or willful incompetence baffles me.
     
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    You can't sign away your right to sue due to gross negligence...
     
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    I think "factual or fictional" means they can do anything they want with the production/video/editing...... e.g. make the guy coming out of the cannon look much scarier than it is...sound effects.....crowd reactions....fake snake, etc.
     
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    BeerCanThick Well-Known Member

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    What about Section D?
     
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    So you are telling me the alata dogs aren't rich as fuck?
     
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    Mr Pink Well-Known Member

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    Probably standard legal-speak to indemnify to the fullest. Notice that it says:

    "To the maximum extent permitted by law..."

    Maybe someone with legal background can answer whether gross negligence can be signed away.


    Boy, that's some contract.
     
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    pilo Well-Known Member

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    Howard "I love black people, Robin" Stern still does casually racist black people impressions and he makes them all sound like jive talkers from the 70s
    "I've evolved, I'm a better person"
     
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    Yeahnolisten Well-Known Member

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    I think it's funny(and sad) that the people who provide the least amount of entertainment - the judges - get paid thousand's of times more than the acts themselves.
     
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    pilo Well-Known Member

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    What valuable perspective do a pack of 4 random celebrities with no background in spotting talent provide? It would make a lot more sense to have a bunch of scouts or execs or even random people off the street
     
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    Terry Fator is a very proficient ventriloquist. Vegas doesn't hand out $100 million dollar contracts to anybody. He still working at the Mirage so I imagine he has signed his second contract. Now that American Idol has fallen so far in the ratings Simon might be sending some better talent to AGT. It's all fluff as the real acts are fast forwarded to these shows. The shows are such fraudulent scams they make the fixing of "21" look like child's play.