Entertainment Am I alone in my feeling that red light cameras are an excellent resource?

Discussion in 'The Howard Stern Show' started by Bobby Axelrod, Jun 30, 2016.

  1. Bobby Axelrod

    Bobby Axelrod Well-Known Member VIP

    Reputations:
    21,479
    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2016
    Messages:
    3,778
    Likes Received:
    4,898
    I don't understand why people feel they are unlawful.

    I received a ticket in the mail yesterday for running a red light that had a camera. I went online to where I could see a video of my car blatantly running a red light.

    The only thing unlawful in the entire transaction was me.
     
  2. Shithead

    Shithead Well-Known Member

    Reputations:
    100,199
    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    13,734
    Likes Received:
    22,492
    Source of revenue, nothing else
     
  3. Bobby Axelrod

    Bobby Axelrod Well-Known Member VIP

    Reputations:
    21,479
    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2016
    Messages:
    3,778
    Likes Received:
    4,898
    Well I certainly won't run the red light I did ever again so I'd say they serve a much greater purpose than simply generating revenue.
     
    RONNIE THE CLAW likes this.
  4. AcquiringSignal

    AcquiringSignal Girthy VIP

    Reputations:
    96,907
    Joined:
    Apr 16, 2012
    Messages:
    6,885
    Likes Received:
    18,062
    Im in favor of Judge Dredd-type immediate trial and punishment for red light runners.
     
  5. Johnnykstaint

    Johnnykstaint VIP Extreme Gold

    Reputations:
    102,558
    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2010
    Messages:
    42,586
    Likes Received:
    21,595
    I dont necessarily think that the owner of a car should be liable for any infraction caused by other drivers.
     
  6. Bobby Axelrod

    Bobby Axelrod Well-Known Member VIP

    Reputations:
    21,479
    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2016
    Messages:
    3,778
    Likes Received:
    4,898
    Plus, having that camera at that intersection allows police resources to be utilized more effectively.
     
    FosterKitten likes this.
  7. Bobby Axelrod

    Bobby Axelrod Well-Known Member VIP

    Reputations:
    21,479
    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2016
    Messages:
    3,778
    Likes Received:
    4,898
    Don't let people you don't trust drive your car then.
     
    Cheri, WHTHS and Captain like this.
  8. Willowglen

    Willowglen Lookin thru the glass ceiling & up Stephs skirt VIP

    Reputations:
    91,169
    Joined:
    Jan 18, 2012
    Messages:
    10,617
    Likes Received:
    14,545

    Its usually a multiple angle shot with one bring thru the wind shield showing the driver. If its not you its dropped.
     
    Bobby Axelrod likes this.
  9. Rescued Owl

    Rescued Owl VIP Extreme Gold

    Reputations:
    167,605
    Joined:
    Jan 14, 2014
    Messages:
    8,227
    Likes Received:
    24,297
    It's been proven that they shorten the yellow light so they can snag more people. Sorry, I mean money.
     
  10. HowieStearn

    HowieStearn HateClub

    Reputations:
    83,470
    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2011
    Messages:
    14,872
    Likes Received:
    14,793
    it's a scam. our city tried them "for our safety". It failed.
    not so surprisingly, it was all about money jimmy. and when the city realized they had hidden costs such as people appealing the tickets, and the real amount of money they were making was much less than advertised, possibly none at all, the cameras came down.
     
  11. Johnnykstaint

    Johnnykstaint VIP Extreme Gold

    Reputations:
    102,558
    Joined:
    Sep 17, 2010
    Messages:
    42,586
    Likes Received:
    21,595
    Oh then I'm ok with that.
     
  12. wife is a whore

    wife is a whore Stripped of POTY for butthurting staff VIP

    Reputations:
    577,403
    Joined:
    Jan 15, 2012
    Messages:
    47,154
    Likes Received:
    78,975
    As long as it is a reduced fine and no points i cant complain much. In nyc i think it is $50. Sucks, but a parking ticket is $115, so red light aint that pricey.
     
    RONNIE THE CLAW likes this.
  13. Asshat

    Asshat Well-Known Member

    Reputations:
    6,906
    Joined:
    May 15, 2013
    Messages:
    1,597
    Likes Received:
    1,653
    I am for them, in principle. Around here people blow through red lights all the damn time and I'm no traffic expert but it seems pretty unsafe. (Not to mention adds to traffic snarls.) I live in Manhattan fifteen years and I can count on one hand the number of times I've seen an NYPD issuing a moving violation. Obeying traffic signals is sort of a fundamental cornerstone concept of a society and communal living and when you have people disregarding something as basic as that what do you have? Anarchy.
     
    superstone and Bobby Axelrod like this.
  14. Captain

    Captain Alto, Blanco y Guapo Gold

    Reputations:
    139,997
    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2013
    Messages:
    6,330
    Likes Received:
    11,913
    Here's a question: "Bobby Axelrod is sent a traffic citation for running a red light. The citation was based upon a traffic camera owned and operated by a private company, Cameras, Inc., which works under contract for the city. Images are processed by Cameras, Inc. before being provided to the local police. It's Axelrod's third citation, meaning he could lose his license. His state allows for a bench trial for license revocation proceedings. If Axelrod wants to challenge the citation, what is his best challenge to the introduction of the citation: (a) hearsay; (b) best evidence rule; (c) authentication; (d) relevancy.
     
    Calloused Shins likes this.
  15. marswillrule

    marswillrule Active Member

    Reputations:
    1,495
    Joined:
    Jun 14, 2012
    Messages:
    178
    Likes Received:
    191
    I wasn't a aware there was a camera and missed a yellow turning red by less than a second. I was making a right hand turn with all traffic still stopped waiting for their green. $500+ ticket. Safety ensured!

    Luckily a clause in the contract was unlawful. Fought it and won.

    Fuck you Red Flex.
     
    Pussy Tendon and x76 like this.
  16. Bobby Axelrod

    Bobby Axelrod Well-Known Member VIP

    Reputations:
    21,479
    Joined:
    Mar 11, 2016
    Messages:
    3,778
    Likes Received:
    4,898
    Why would I challenge it when there is clear proof I ran the red light?
     
  17. x76

    x76 Well-Known Member

    Reputations:
    34,999
    Joined:
    Oct 12, 2010
    Messages:
    4,235
    Likes Received:
    5,541
    Cities seem to invariably tweak the signal timing to catch more citizens and rake in more money. Not impressed.
     
    cg256, Bryce, austin54 and 2 others like this.
  18. vaporizer

    vaporizer Well-Known Member

    Reputations:
    48,059
    Joined:
    Mar 13, 2015
    Messages:
    3,878
    Likes Received:
    8,389
    Like in finding unarmed black kids to harass and arrest or just yukking it up with other cops in parked cop cars in an empty Wendy's parking lot?

    Red light cameras are a joke and have been getting yanked out of cities in Southern California left and right for good reason. Make the cops work. It IS their job after all.
     
    BrerJimmy and cg256 like this.
  19. Wangold

    Wangold Well-Known Member

    Reputations:
    37,951
    Joined:
    Dec 13, 2011
    Messages:
    7,324
    Likes Received:
    8,689
  20. Captain

    Captain Alto, Blanco y Guapo Gold

    Reputations:
    139,997
    Joined:
    Jun 25, 2013
    Messages:
    6,330
    Likes Received:
    11,913
    Gotta' think like someone who does not want to admit anything and wants to save $$ and his license. ;) The whole point is to challenge the admissibility of the "proof." (I am-and probably only I am-- just having fun here. Believe it or not, there is a lively debate about whether license plates can be challenged as hearsay (in other words, that they violate one of the general rules governing legally admissible evidence) or can be admitted under non-hearsay rules (in other words, exceptions to the general rules).)


    Sorry. I'll show myself to the exit of this thread now.
     
    Hough likes this.