Here is another story about a man who shot a black teen to death down in Florida: http://news.yahoo.com/shooting-death-black-teen-puts-florida-law-back-004720741.html I don't know whether the shooter is white or black, but the quick story: A man named Dunn was in Jacksonville to attend his son's wedding when he went to a gas station where 4 teens, all presumably black (the dead teen is black), were listening to music inside a vehicle. This is speculation but I'm betting they were blasting some shit-music with plenty of boom so anyone withing 100 feet of the vehicle could "enjoy" the music, too. Anyways, this guy Dunn asked them to turn down the music while inside his vehicle. Words were exchanged and things escalated to the point where Dunn fired several shots at the vehicle, killing one of the occupants. Dunn fled but was later arrested in another county in Florida. Dunn alleges one of the occupants of the vehicle produced a shotgun which provoked him to fire upon the vehicle. No shotgun was recovered from the shot-upon vehicle. Dunn, 45, now sits in a Florida jail on charges of second-degree murder. No bail. The next part is TL/DR territory, so my apologies to those who don't like to read a lot. . . . for those who get through my screed below, I want to know your general opinions. Set aside for a moment any question as to whether Dunn acted legally or not. Shit, assume he acted legally. Was it worth it to escalate a situation by even asking these teens to pipe down their music in the first place? I'm talking realistically here. I'm a gun owner who regularly carries, so my issue isn't with guns. If you are defending yourself, fine. But something I had to come to terms with when I became a gun-owner was determining at what point I would actually use a firearm and it calmed me down. A lot. I went from being a prick-driver who flipped people off regularly and engaged in some road-rage (yeah yeah, I was a complete fucking idiot) to becoming downright dovish on the road. Cut me off? Fine by me. No harm, no foul. Blasting your music at the gas station? Cool, bro. Have at it. Not my problemo. Aggressive panhandler at the gas station? "Sorry, man, I don't have any change to give you" and report the activity to a gas-station employee. In other words, becoming a gun-owner didn't embolden me to be a "tough" guy. It caused me to calm the fuck down because of the consequences. I don't want to kill anyone if it can be avoided. I don't want the legal problems, the moral and ethical questions, etc. This guy Dunn may have acted legally, and even if he did, he's already had to retain an attorney (expensive) and spend time in jail (horrible experience). I think if Dunn had it to do over again, he would have tolerated the blaring music and gone along his way and enjoyed his son's wedding and then gone back home. Right now, he is stewing in jail, spending money, losing money if he works for a wage, and facing the possibility of a murder conviction. It was not worth it, hoss.