Anyone here making money off manipulating people?

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  1. RenchFries

    RenchFries Official Dawgshed Dutch representative Gold

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    I passed on a job opportunity that involved a good salary and cool traveling. Why? Read the long-ass story.


    It was this self-help/motivation guru seminar company that showed interest in me. I had met the CEO at some random event and we had a conversation for over two hours. His story was interesting so I agreed to attend one of his seminars to see what's what. I learned that they were doing this all over Europe, so some cool traveling adventures would come with the job, which sounded great! I learned that he had like 20 volunteers working for him. They could attend the seminars for free while working there, instead of getting paid. He tried to get me in there the same way but I refused that right away and we agreed he would offer me a paying job with a very decent salary. But, only after I attended one of his seminars to get an idea of what they did.

    It was this free 3-day seminar (which struck me as odd and, quite frankly, impossible) and each day was 12 hours. It ran from 9 AM to 9 PM and it was in a very nice hotel conference room. Around a hundred people had shown up when I was there. They pumped everyone up by making everyone yell and jump up and down and there was loud music through an impressive sound system and big video screens showing sped up HD video of cities and nature and shit. Everything was very impressive, a true bombardment of the senses. I observed the whole thing instead of getting dragged along with it.

    Each speaker was charismatic and had an interesting and inspiring story to tell and all their stories ended the same.

    You can get this fantastic course for $8997. If that's too much money, I have a smaller package for $2497. But because you guys are so awesome, I'm gonna offer the premium package for $4997 and I'll throw in the smaller package for FREE! That's over TEN THOUSAND BUCKS IN VALUE and you only pay half. But, only if you sign up TODAY.

    It was manipulation at its finest. These poor people were beaten numb with information, promises, and dreams for 3 very long days in a row. I noticed several NLP routines going on in there constantly, too.

    Right away after each speaker they could sign up for one of their courses (payments in terms also possible) while they were in this delicate state of bliss, happiness and feeling safe in the group.

    That was another one of those psychological tricks: the group thing. Here's what they do: first they drag people out of their comfort zone by making them dance and jump around. They make sure everyone in there follows so people feel safe doing it. Essentially they have just created a new comfort zone that's associated with this seminar. Breaking through your comfort zone makes you feel really awesome, especially if you're cheered on by others instead of being judged. It makes you feel powerful and safe in the group. It's a very powerful psychological device. People were pumping each other up as well towards the end.

    They weren't doing anything illegal, but morally, this gig was very questionable.

    So yeah, I turned that shit down. I wouldn't be able to live with myself working for a company making money off people who are susceptible to this sort of shit because things are rough for them right now. Most of the folks in there were good people. Some of them weren't the sharpest knife in the drawer and some of them just seemed desperate for a lucky break. After all, if someone promises to tell you a secret to make 50.000 bucks in a couple of months, a 5000 dollar seminar is a pretty good deal. Especially if it's a good looking guy who's showing you photo's of his big house and his boat and his Ferrari telling you you can also get all that.


    Anyone in that industry can go fuck themselves. That shit just ain't right.
     
  2. DrivenByDemons

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    holy shit
     
  3. Mack

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    Tldnr
     
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  5. JJR

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    Woah. Not reading.


    Often, at the poker table.
     
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    You forgot the semicolon.
     
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    just Ryan.
     
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    I read it. Good for you for not going along with it. You're a smart kid for someone in their mid-twenties knowing about psychological manipulation and such.
     
  9. Gas Face

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    what's this mean?
     
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    no one manipsiates me :fil:
     
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  12. RenchFries

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    Too long, did not read.


    The reason I have time to write shit like this is because I turn down jobs when I finally get an offer.
     
  13. JJR

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    Thanks to your high fiber diet!
     
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    every day
     
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    Can you sum it up in a sentence or two? We're all pretty retarded here.
     
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    Howard is.
     
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