Appeals Court Upholds Gay Marriage Bans In Four States

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  1. BethSucks

    BethSucks Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    The Supreme Court is going to have to weigh in on this at some point since the rulings of the lower courts conflict.

    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2014/11/06/federal-appeals-court-upholds-gay-marriage-bans/

    CINCINNATI – A federal appeals court on Thursday upheld anti-gay marriage laws in four states, breaking ranks with other courts that have considered the issue and setting up the prospect of Supreme Court review.

    The 6th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals panel that heard arguments on gay marriage bans or restrictions in Ohio, Michigan, Kentucky and Tennessee on Aug. 6 split 2-1, with Circuit Judge Jeffrey Sutton writing the majority opinion. The ruling creates a divide among federal appeals courts, increasing the likelihood the Supreme Court will now take up the issue.

    The ruling concluded that states have the right to set rules for marriage.

    It followed more than 20 court victories for supporters of same-sex marriage since the U.S. Supreme Court struck down part of the federal Defense of Marriage Act last year. A federal judge in Louisiana recently upheld that state's ban, but four U.S. appeals courts ruled against state bans.

    The issue appears likely to return to the Supreme Court so the nation's highest court can settle whether states can ban gay marriage or that gay and lesbian couples have a fundamental right to marry under the U.S. Constitution. Thirty-two states recently asked the Supreme Court to settle the issue once and for all.

    The high court on Oct. 6 unexpectedly turned away appeals from five states seeking to prohibit gay and lesbian unions. The court's order effectively made gay marriage legal in 30 states. The San Francisco-based 9th Circuit Court of Appeals the next day overturned same-sex marriage bans in Idaho and Nevada, the fourth federal appeals court to rule against state bans.

    Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg recently told a Minnesota audience that the 6th Circuit's then-pending ruling would likely influence the high court's timing, adding "some urgency" if it allowed same-sex marriage bans to stand.

    Before the 9th's Oct. 7 ruling, three other appellate courts, the 10th Circuit in Denver, the 4th Circuit in Richmond, Virginia, and the 7th Circuit in Chicago, overturned statewide gay marriage bans in Wisconsin, Indiana, Oklahoma, Utah and Virginia over the summer, ruling that they were unconstitutional.

    During the Aug. 6 arguments, it was apparent that Sutton would be the deciding vote, with the two other judges clearly on opposite sides of the debate.

    Sutton vigorously questioned each side's attorneys, though he repeatedly expressed deep skepticism that the courts were the best place to legalize gay marriage, saying that the way to win Americans' hearts and minds is to wait until they're ready to vote for it.

    "I would have thought the best way to get respect and dignity is through the democratic process," Sutton, a George W. Bush nominee, said at the time. "Nothing happens as quickly as we'd like it."

    Michigan's and Kentucky's cases stem from rulings striking down each state's gay marriage bans. Ohio's two cases deal only with the state's recognition of out-of-state gay marriages, while Tennessee's is narrowly focused on the rights of three same-sex couples.

    Plaintiffs include a Cincinnati man who wants his late husband listed as married on his death certificate so they can be buried next to each other in a family-only plot and a Tennessee couple who both want to be listed on their newborn daughter's birth certificate.


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    This could be bad news for Howard and Ralph.
     
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    Do you think that is photoshopped?:bounce:
     
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    This is another example of shoving a law down everyone's throats whether they want it or not. It does not have as much to do with gay marriage, as now it takes away the rights of ministers who do not want to oversee gay weddings. There already is a case going on in Utah.
     
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    Yeah, because gays are pointing a gun to those minister's heads, forcing them to marry them.

    One of the dumbest things I've ever read.
     
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    Republicans should drop this issue. Not only is it the right thing to do, it creates another issue to bash Republicans on.

    Gay marriage isn't hurting anyone. Republicans should be pro marriage and pro family for everyone.
     
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    AllAboutHim Ed #mypurpose VIP

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    actually the government is. Companies are being sued for refusing to provide services to gays. They're foolish but it should be their right.
     
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    Wow, Ed. :hug:
     
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    No. They just have to get a lawyer and sue the minister who does not want to perform the ceremony. OR if they were normal (putting aside their sexuality), they could just find another person to marry them.

    You may want to look up the case in which a gay man sued Christian Mingle because of their religious beliefs.

    Please understand, I am not making a judgment one way or the other - only looking at the restrictions on some business people with threats of lawsuits.
     
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    Wow - you obviously haven't been here very long.:jj:
     
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    Can we publicly drop the issue but still secretly dislike homos? I would be for that.
     
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