Before the Somme, Verdun, and the Gas

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  1. BarberFloyd

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    Christmas has almost ended and with all the hate that seems to be pouring out of every sector of media, exactly one hundred years ago from today, in Europe, during what would become at the time the most brutal conflict humanity ever waged against itself, something beautiful happened.

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    Christmas truces sprang up all across the Western Front between French, British, and German soldiers as well as Austrian and Russian soldiers on the Eastern Front.
    They all start the same: A simple gentleman's agreement of ceasing fire during the next forty-eight hours in order to collect and bury the dead.
    What happened there after are stories of great legendary courage, mercy, and betrayal.
    As game theory suggests, not all that got out of the trenches seeking truce were welcomed in open arms and what could be the victors editing history, most stories blame the Germans as not wanting to truce.

    The outside world was fully unaware of what had taken place. TIME was the first to break the story but official response from France in particular suggested that "Fraternization with the enemy is a criminal act of high treason against the state and will be punished severely".

    It was the soldier's story. It was they're little secrete glimpse at what humanity could do in times of utter brutality and carnage. The only reason time was able to break the story was increasing rumors on the home-front from returning soldiers who were on leave or sent home wounded.

    From the single sentry scribbling in his diary about how he refused to fire upon exposed troops, fellow snipers, or whole artillery batteries to the famous football games (the only one documenting the score showed Germany won 3-2 after a error from a British striker)

    The story cannot have a happy ending, for news of these "truces" quickly spread to high command. Those that reported less then average causalities in the forty-eight hour period from Christmas Eve to Christmas Day were ordered to charge the following days in order to "reinvigorate the offensive spirit" in the men.
    The following years would also lead to the costly battles of The Somme, Verdun and the use of poisonous gas almost erased many soldier's minds of mercy and what that word means to them.
    Swiftly persecuted for "fraternization with the enemy", there were still reports of some fifty soldiers from both ends "charging" no man's land defenseless with only a football in hand (usually a ham tin) to signal the tireless feeling of continuing the bloody war on Christmas day.

    Could this ever happen again? Or does it take a incredible wave of feeling as if your on the edge of the universe, at the end of the world, to not shoot someone in the back and to simply appreciate the comfort of knowing no one has to die today?
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    This is back when "Goils were goils and men were meeeeeen..."
     
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    I met a veteran of the Somme around 30 years ago. One of the most pointless and bloody battles of all time, 1 million killed over a few months. He still couldn't say much even over 60 years later, that's how horrible it was. WWI was the war where old school battle tactics faced modern weapons.
     
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    The poor slobs in the meat grinder took a break and suddenly realized their enemies were just simple humans. just like them. They saw that propaganda they were fed was bullshit and that they were no more than cannon fodder used to settle a petty dispute between spoiled oligarchs

    Of course, the scumbag Monarchs couldn't let that happen.....

    Nothing has changed to this day
     
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    SouthernListen I don't follow the crowd. Sorry about that. VIP

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    They would lose more men in a day than we've lost in Afghanistan and Iraq in 13 years.

    First day on the Somme, 1 July[edit]

    On THE FIRST DAY alone, the Fourth Army (british) lost 57,470 casualties, of which 19,240 men were killed, the French Sixth Army had 1,590 casualties and the German 2nd Army had 10,000–12,000 losses.[19]

    Add to this 623,000 total casualties over the entire battle for the Allies. Maybe 225,000 dead. in about 4 1/2 months. GB's population then? 43 million, excluding Ireland. Or just a little more than that of California today.

    It would be like us suffering 150,000 dead in a single day of war today. On some of our worst days we've lost 1/10,000th of that. On average, in Iraq and Afghanstan, our deaths have been about 1.5/day. Or 1/100,000th the rate of the Somme.

    Now keep in mind how small The Somme battlefield was compared to the entire Western front. About 35 miles wide.
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    Then try to answer the question: What were they fighting about?
     
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    Nationalism, petty rivalries and spoiled rich guy's tantrums
     
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    Change Nationalism to Judaism and you have the HSS.
     
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    "What were they fighting about?"

    Nothing. A few hundred yards of blood-soaked churned up mud and dirt that would change hands from day to day. Unbelievably asinine when you think about it.
     
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    Oddly the war led to the end of monarchies, excluding Britain....and the rise of socialism

    Fat cats pushed too far and caused their own demise
     
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    Yes, and wars had raged across Europe for hundreds of years based on these reasons. The relative peace that has reigned since 1945 is the aberration from an historical perspective.

    What was so different about WWI? Why static battle lines and casualties on such a massive scale? One important context is the ancient competition among armor vs firepower vs maneuver.

    The industrial revolution lead to mass production and distribution of artillery, machine guns, grenades, chemical munitions, etc. So armor and maneuver became grossly outweighed by massive firepower. The primary military strategists of the time failed to recognize and adapt. They were still trying to fight the classic Napoleonic battles of the previous century.
     
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    Hey I don't mind if your that guy, I appreciate learning more about the topic. I was just trying to find as many pictures as I could about the truce, only a few exist, at least on google images.
     
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    Exactly, a new level of horror for the grunts