Bill Maher ABSOLUTELY CRUSHES Charlie Rose For Comparing Islam To Christianity

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  1. HS Cult Leader

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    Bill Maher ABSOLUTELY CRUSHES Charlie Rose For Comparing Islam To Christianity





    BILL MAHER: I saw Howard Dean on TV the other day and he said something along the order, he said the people in ISIS -- he said I'm about as Islamic as they are, you know, distancing the vast numbers of Islamic people around the world from them. That's just not true.

    CHARLIE ROSE: It is true.

    MAHER: It is not true, Charlie. There is a connecting tissue between --

    ROSE: Behind every Muslim is a future member of some radical?

    MAHER: Let me finish.

    ROSE: I was doing that.

    MAHER: There are illiberal beliefs that are held by vast numbers of Muslim people that --

    ROSE: A vast number of Christians too.

    MAHER: No, that's not true. Not true. Vast numbers of Christians do not believe that if you leave the Christian religion you should be killed for it. Vast numbers of Christians do not treat women as second class citizens. Vast numbers of Christians --

    ROSE: I agree with that --

    MAHER: -- do not believe if you draw a picture of Jesus Christ you should get killed for it. So yes, does ISIS do Khmer Rouge-like activities where they just kill people indiscriminately who aren't just like them? Yes. And would most Muslim people in the world do that or condone that? No.

    ROSE: No.

    MAHER: But most Muslim people in the world do condone violence just for what you think.

    ROSE: How do you know that?

    MAHER: They do. First of all they say it. They shout it.

    ROSE: Vast majorities of Muslims say that?

    MAHER: Absolutely. There was a Pew poll in Egypt done a few years ago -- 82% said, I think, stoning is the appropriate punishment for adultery. Over 80% thought death was the appropriate punishment for leaving the Muslim religion. I'm sure you know these things.

    ROSE: Well I do. But I don't believe --

    MAHER: So to claim that this religion is like other religions is just naive and plain wrong. It is not like other religious. The New York Times pointed out in an op-ed a couple weeks ago that in Saudi Arabia just since August 4th, they think it was, they have beheaded 19 people. Most for non-violent crimes including homosexuality.

    ROSE: I know that they cut the hands off the thief.

    MAHER: Right, okay, so we're upset that ISIS is beheading people which we should be upset about but Saudi Arabia does it and they're our good friends because they have oil. Okay. But they do it too. This is the center of the religion. I'm not saying -

    ROSE: But they're now fighting against ISIS too. They're joining us in the fight. As is the Emirates. As is Jordan. They are all Muslim countries.

    MAHER: Well, they are both fighting ISIS and they are for ISIS.

    ROSE: Well, it's not the government. I mean, some of them --

    MAHER: Certainly the governments.

    ROSE: It's a bit like today about Qatar. The big story today in The New York Times about Qatar. And some guy there is supporting, who is a Muslim --

    MAHER: But I mean in Mecca where infidels, non-Muslims, are not even allowed in the holy parts of the city. I mean, right there, we don't have that example in other religions. They do behead people. Now if they were beheading people in Vatican City, which is the equivalent of Mecca, don't you think there would be a bigger outcry about it? So this is the soft bigotry of low expectations with Muslim people. When they do crazy things and believe crazy things, somehow it's not talked about nearly as much.

    ROSE: Would you come to the table and debate this with a moderate Muslim?

    MAHER: Find one, yes. Find one.

    ROSE: I promise you I'll find one.

    MAHER: Find a Muslim --

    ROSE: I do believe that what we see with ISIS is not representative of --

    MAHER: As I said, connecting tissue.

    ROSE: -- not representative of the Islamic religion. I don't think the Koran teaches them to do these kinds of things.

    MAHER: Well you're wrong about that. The Koran absolutely has on every page stuff that's horrible about how the infidels should be treated. But for example again ISIS says that they should perform genital mutilation on all women 11-46. Would most Muslims agree with that? No. Or carry it out? No.

    But as Ayaan Hirsi Ali points out, she says --

    ROSE: I wouldn't expect for her to --

    MAHER: And she would know better than --

    ROSE: Exactly.

    MAHER: But can we really say --

    ROSE: She's been a victim.

    MAHER: -- women are treated equally in the Muslim world? I mean, their testimony in court is very often counted as half. They need permission to leave the house in some places.

    ROSE: But a lot of moderate Muslims would say in fact one of the things that we need to modernize is the idea of the way we treat women.

    MAHER: But in this country, if you just use the wrong word about women, they go nuts. And all these other countries --

    ROSE: As they should.

    MAHER: -- they're doing things like making them wear burqas and I hear liberals say things like, 'they want to.' They want to. They've been brainwashed. It's like saying a street walker wants to do that.
     
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    Bill has really evolved. He has done a 180 on this subject. I may have to start watching him again.
    Lefty douche bag Charlie Rose panicking.....priceless!
    :jj:
     
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    That's pretty bold. He makes valid points. He also smokes weed.
     
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    I never cared for Bill because of many of his views and his joy in attacking Christianity. But I must say, I've found a new respect for him because of his intellectual honesty here. Everyone knows he's not a fan of Christianity or even religion in general, but he wasn't going to sit by and allow those statements to go unchallenged.

    I'm astounded at what an apologist piece of shit Charlie Rose actually is, everyone knew he was left wing, but he just proved he's way off the reservation.
     
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    I still watch him and he's always took the side that it's bullshit to compare the two.

    He isn't squeamish about shitting on muzzies just because it's a brown people religion, like his fellow libturds.

     
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    Love him or hate him, he does come prepared to the party. I I do enjoy his show and am looking forward to the live show and stand up special tomorrow night. He is entertaining, and I can take him better than most talking puppets on the "news" channels.
     
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    The sad part is that while none of bill's points were refuted by Charlie Rose, Rose will continue to say the same (false and excuse-making) statements about Islam. Intelligent discourse where people can adopt new ideas or admit that they were wrong just doesn't exist with people.

    Good job by Bill Mahr! I got tired of listening to him but think he is spot on here. And congrats to him for taking such a non-PC position.
     
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    Must have evolved in recent years.
    I stopped watching regularly 2007-ish. He was comparing the two back then.
     
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    This! ..the guy is a brilliant political comic. Calls it like it is... Guys got balls
     
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    I love how "all" needs to be the qualifier to criticize anything with assholes like Charlie Rose.
     
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    He's brilliant
     
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    Always will be necessary
    :facepalm:
     
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    your dog is beautiful
     
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    Bill Maher is a condescending asshole.

    There are almost 2 billion Muslims in the world-25% of the population--and he says they are all radical extremists?

    What about the Christians who don't want women to have free choice? Or blindly cover up for pedophile priests?

    Fuck him and his faux-liberal views. His HBO show suks too
     
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    "It depends on what the meaning of the words 'is' is." :)
     
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    Ya, he does come off as a dopey dik, but the world turns.
     
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    Someone in the Arabian Peninsula will some day create a real-life Bill Maher bobblehead.
     
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    wait they beheaded a man for being gay...??

    $100 says the guy who turned him in got his dick sucked
     
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    Thank you. Maximus - He was one of a kind, a gentle goofball.
    I'll post a pic of me sitting with his giant urn by the fireplace..........:rolleyes: