News BLM's ten requests- reasonable?

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    Black Lives Matter Just Delivered Their 10 Point Manifesto, and This Is What They Want
    Black Lives Matter (BLM), the activist group that campaigns agasint police brutality and racial injutice, have just come out with their plan to help fix the issues that plague police forces up and down the country.

    Their plan – “Campaign Zero” – focuses on 10 points where they would like the law to change. They believe that these changes will help stop racial profiling and lessen the dangers everyday citizens face when dealing with the police.

    To get an idea of what they are asking for we thought we’d provide a breakdown of their plan:


    1. End "broken windows" policing, which aggressively polices minor crimes in an attempt to stop larger ones.
    “Broken windows” policing is the idea that vigorously enforcing small crimes (like vandalism) will prevent larger crimes from happening. This law has allowed police to increase “stop and frisks”, which BLM claims enables racial stereotyping. They argue that Black men and women are unfairly targeted by police using this law as an excuse, and that this policy ultimately led to the death of Eric Garner (remember the guy that was choked to death after he was caught selling loose cigarettes). This is their first point in their plan, and probably the most controversial.

    2. Use community oversight for misconduct rather than having the police department decide what consequences officers should face.
    Rather than the police deciding how an officer is punished after they’ve committed a crime (like when an officer who caused a death is ‘punished’ by being put on paid leave for six months), they want an independent group to review all cases and dole out the punishments. Since, you know, the police department might be a tad on biased.

    3. Make standards for reporting police use of deadly force.
    A lot of reports of police using deadly force aren’t released to the public. This skews the statistics when it comes down to who died by police hands and it leaves the public in the dark about how the police operate. BLM want to standardize the reporting methods and make the whole process more transparent.

    4. Independently investigate and prosecute police misconduct.
    Much like point two, BLM doesn’t want the police investigating crimes committed by the police since it’s proven to be a recipe for trouble. Instead, they want an independently run government body to investigate whether or not an officer has violated the law. The short version: if a cop shoots someone, someone other than the cops should look into the case to see if that shooting was lawful.

    5. Have the racial makeup of police departments reflect the communities they serve.
    This one is simple enough to ask for, harder to carry out in practice. BLM want the police force to be racially representative of the areas they protect. If a community is 50% Black, 30% Hispanic, and 20% White, they want to see a police force that reflects those demographics. Hypothetically, for every two White officers they’d hire, they’d also hire five Black officers and three Hispanic officers.

    6. Require officers to wear body cameras.
    This policy has already been implemented in several different police forces across the country – and with great success in some cases. However, the debate starts when it comes down to when and why an officer can turn the camera off. For example, you wouldn't want people watching you when you went for a piss, would you?

    7. Provide more training for police officers.
    More training is never a bad thing. Many supporters of BLM believe that a lot of the issues between police officers and citizens have been instigated by rookie cops that are a little too eager to prove themselves in the field, and they feel a little extra training could help that out.

    8. End for-profit policing practices.
    This is a biggie. As of now, the police can legally take any money or property that they “believe” is in some way linked to a crime, and they can use that money and property as they see fit, even if you’re never convicted of that crime. It’s called Civil Forfeiture and the police in many areas have used this “right” to fund their own agencies and precincts. This is a major issue, and many people from different walks of life see it as legalized robbery. For more information check out John Oliver’s take on it, as he explains it far more eloquently than I ever could.

    9. End the police use of military equipment.
    BLM argues that the police should be working with the community to provide peaceful resolutions to society's issues and that the use of military equipment shows an intent to abuse their power over citizens. It drives home the Us vs Them mentality. Big guns and body armour = scared citizens. Open dialogue and transparency = happy citizens.

    10. Implement police union contracts that hold officers accountable for misconduct.
    So, police unions have a history of protecting police (shocking, I know). Police officers accused of misconduct are no exception, but other members are often discouraged by their unions to speak out against those accused. This can delay convictions and stop valuable information or evidence from coming to light which prevents real justice. While the police need unions to protect their rights, BLM argue that the unions should play their part in weeding out the bad apples. If not, the abuse of power will continue because the bad officers know they can get away with it.

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    Lol I'm not reading all that

    Suck a dick
     
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    I could read this or head back over to the boobies thread. Decisions decisions
     
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    That all actually sounds pretty reasonable.
     
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    Not accepting until they accept their responsibility. Till then, they can fuck off.
     
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    Who gets to pick the punishment panel? Can white people be on it?
     
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    11. Send you animals back to Africa
     
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    12. Stop appropriating white culture by using the Internet, flying in airplanes, getting vaccines and other meds, and things of that nature.
     
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    Oh sure. :lol:
     
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    At least someone in that organization got some brains and realized they could get behind a specific cause rather than just rabble rousing.
     
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    The Din do nuffin' manifesto!
    Nothing is their fault and their committing of crimes is no excuse for outsiders to come in and enforce the laws..

    Only Blacks can properly police themselves. Racist much?

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    5 and 9 are a definite no.

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    Black people in the United States are more likely to be victims of violent confrontations with police officers than whites because they commit more violent crimes than whites per capita.

    – FACT: Despite making up just 13% of the population, blacks commit around half of homicides in the United States. DOJ statistics showthat between 1980 and 2008, blacks committed 52% of homicides, compared to 45% of homicides committed by whites.

    More up to date FBI statistics tell a similar story. In 2013, black criminals carried out 38% of murders, compared to 31.1% for whites, again despite the fact that there are five times more white people in the U.S.

    – FACT: From 2011 to 2013, 38.5 per cent of people arrested for murder, manslaughter, rape, robbery, and aggravated assault were black. This figure is three times higher than the 13% black population figure. When you account for the fact that black males aged 15-34, who account for around 3% of the population, are responsible for the vast majority of these crimes, the figures are even more staggering.

    – FACT: Despite the fact that black people commit an equal or greater number of violent crimes than whites, whites are almost TWICE as likely to be killed by police officers.

    According to data from the Centers for Disease Control, between 1999 and 2011, 2,151 whites died as a result of being shot by police compared to 1,130 blacks.

    Critics argue that black people are overrepresented in these figures because they only represent 13% of the population, but they areunderrepresented if you factor in violent crime offenders. In other words, you would expect the number of blacks and whites killed by police to be roughly equal given that they commit a roughly equal number of violent crimes, but that’s not the case. Whites are nearly 100% more likely to be victims.
     
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    Telling people not too resist seems much more easy than 10 points.

    No Resist = No Death = No Riots
     
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    I'm sure that if all those demands are met, the black community will be able to solve all their problems.
     
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    I think 3, 4 and 6 are reasonable. However, making a new "government body" is another way for more corruption and misuse of funds. There has to be a better way.
     
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    I truly believe that the black community, not educated blacks but poor ones that are a waste like white trash want a separate set of laws and that is BLM ultimate goal. They essentially can't conform to normal laws like 95 percent of the rest of society and they want the police to look the other way on crimes that are "cultural" to them. To do otherwise is racist is their argument. Like dealing drugs or driving fucked up this is simply part of their culture and to not allow it is racist because police don't get this. So they are trying to change the rules so they can run rough shot and rogue and not have to conform to society. When a teenage boy lives in section 8'housing what is he doing with 20k in cash? Figure it out!

    I would say the same for white trash that suffers this same fate. I am so sick of this. Regardless of race when a dude has been pulled over or arrested 50 plus times and a cop sees that on his computer screen his spider senses are gonna be tingling. The media almost ALWAYS omits the priors of all these victims yet the police are using this data, not race, to assess what they need to do prior to walking up to the car. In almost every instance it isn't a person who has had zero priors being hurt (and I'm not excusing the actions of the police) but these guys aren't choir singers like the media shows.

    Objectively why don't Muslims, Asians or Mexicans have these issues and they are smaller less powerful minorities? Why isn't anyone looking into this?
     
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    Reasonable: 3,4,6 and 7.


    Fuck off with the rest.
     
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