Bradley Manning is now Chelsea Manning

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  1. Napoleon V2

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    Bradley Manning: 'I Am A Female,' Call Me Chelsea
    by MARK MEMMOTT
    August 22, 2013 8:56 AM


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    "I am Chelsea Manning. I am a female. Given the way that I feel, and have felt since childhood, I want to begin hormone therapy as soon as possible."

    That's part of a statement from Army Pfc. Bradley Manning to NBC-TV's Today show.

    Manning, the former intelligence analyst who was responsible for the largest leak of classified information in U.S. history, was sentenced Wednesday to 35 years in prison. Manning could be paroled in as soon as seven years.


    U.S. Army handout/Reuters/Landov
    In the statement read Thursday on Today, the 25-year-old Manning asks that "starting today, you refer to me by my new name and use the feminine pronoun (except in official mail to the confinement facility)."

    As The Associated Press writes, "Manning's struggle with gender identity disorder — the sense of being a woman trapped in a man's body — was key to the defense. Attorneys had presented evidence of Manning's struggle with gender identity, including a photo of the soldier in a blond wig and lipstick sent to a therapist."

    Thursday on Today, Manning's attorney, David Coombs, said testimony about "the stress that [Manning] was under was mostly to give context to what was going on at the time. ... It was never an excuse because that's not what drove his actions. What drove his actions was a strong moral compass."

    Manning is expected to be held at Fort Leavenworth, Kan. According to Courthouse News Service, the prison there "does not provide hormone therapy or sex-reassignment surgery to inmates."

    But Coombs said on Today that he hopes Fort Leavenworth "would do the right thing" and provide such therapy for Manning. "If Fort Leavenworth does not, then I'm going to do everything in my power to make sure they are forced to do so," he said.


    Update at 11 a.m. ET. On How NPR And Other News Outlets Are Referring To Manning:

    NPR, like other news outlets, is at this point continuing to refer to the soldier as "Bradley Manning" on first reference. Manning's name has not been legally changed. The soldier's statement indirectly concedes that point about his legal status: "I also request that, starting today, you refer to me by my new name and use the feminine pronoun (except in official mail to the confinement facility)."

    The Poynter Institute has rounded up some of the guidance media organizations give on this point.

    The New York Times:

    "transgender (adj.) is an overall term for people whose current identity differs from their sex at birth, whether or not they have changed their biological characteristics. Cite a person's transgender status only when it is pertinent and its pertinence is clear to the reader. Unless a former name is newsworthy or pertinent, use the name and pronouns (he, his, she, her, hers) preferred by the transgender person. If no preference is known, use the pronouns consistent with the way the subject lives publicly.{new 3/05}"
    The Associated Press:

    "transgender: Use the pronoun preferred by the individuals who have acquired the physical characteristics of the opposite sex or present themselves in a way that does not correspond with their sex at birth.
    "If that preference is not expressed, use the pronoun consistent with the way the individuals live publicly."
    In the coverage of this story so far today, you can see that news outlets are avoiding referring to Manning as a "he" or "she" in subsequent references. Instead, they are referring to "Manning," or "the soldier," or "the former intelligence analyst."
     
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    He should be put to death.
     
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    You are now required to refer to her as "she".
     
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    Thank God our taxes can pay for this shit. Transgender people are mentally fucked up and should be treated the same as a schizophrenic or any other medically ill person.
     
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    She'll be popular in the showers :jail:
     
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    Also, in that pic he looks like Michael Myers from Halloween with a blond wig. :puke:
     
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    am i paying for this, in any way???
     
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    Of course
     
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    then i get to make the cut :yes:
     
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    Calm down
     
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    so Bradley Manning wanted nothing to do with becoming a female for the first 25 years of his life., but now that he is behind bars he wants to fight for the right to have the tax payers foot the bill... absolutely not. I am all for personal choice and identity and if he wants to be called Chelsea, fine call him Chelsea and let him wear panties and any other thing you would give a female inmate, I am fine with that, but I am not paying shit for him to be "happier" in jail, he lost that right.
     
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    If you pay your taxes then you are helping to pay his bills.
     
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    Are you a he/she?
     
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    gay is a horrible disease, I hear if someone sneezes you can actually contract it from a handshake. I wish science would create an antibiotic to stop it spread and infection of innocent people.
     
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    I am referring to a sex change. Optional surgery should never be an available for an inmate. ie sex change, liposuction, laser eye surgery etv
     
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    Where did AIDS come from again?
     
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    If that's what gets you off :coffee:

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    God gave it to us to eradicate homos, duh.
     
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    'Don't ask don't tell' says that sex changes are not to be paid for.

    Calm down everyone.
     
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    But if you want the truth, HIV is a disease originally carried by monkeys, chimps and apes and believed to have mutated into HIV from hunters eating and contracting the disease. They have tested bodies from as early as the 50s in the Congo and have found them infected with HIV.