Breaking: Obama Opens Door To Ground Troops In Request To Congress

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    http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2015/02/11/obama-proposes-war-authorization-against-islamic-state/

    Obama opens door to 'limited' ground combat operations against ISIS




    Obama officially asks Congress to authorize war against ISIS

    President Obama on Wednesday opened the door to "limited" ground combat operations against the Islamic State, as he asked Congress to formally authorize military force against the terrorist network.

    The president, in a proposed resolution and a letter to Congress, underscored the "grave threat" posed by ISIS.

    "If left unchecked, ISIL will pose a threat beyond the Middle East, including to the United States homeland," Obama said.

    The proposal includes limitations that would bar "enduring offensive ground combat operations" and let the authorization lapse after three years. The letter from Obama says the authorization would not allow "long-term, large-scale ground combat operations like those" conducted in Iraq and Afghanistan.

    But the request includes no restrictions on where U.S. forces could pursue the threat. And while the current military campaign centers on coalition airstrikes in Iraq and Syria, the proposal clearly allows U.S. ground troops to engage in limited circumstances.

    "The authorization I propose would provide the flexibility to conduct ground combat operations in other, more limited circumstances, such as rescue operations involving U.S. or coalition personnel or the use of special operations forces to take military action against ISIL leadership," Obama wrote in his letter to Congress. "It would also authorize the use of U.S. forces in situations where ground combat operations are not expected or intended, such as intelligence collection and sharing, missions to enable kinetic strikes, or the provision of operational planning and other forms of advice and assistance to partner forces."

    White House Press Secretary Josh Earnest said the provision would allow special operations missions, such as potential raids targeting Islamic State leaders and rescue efforts. "It's impossible to envision every scenario where ground combat troops might be necessary," Earnest told the Associated Press.

    The request kicks off what is likely to be a drawn-out debate in Congress, with hawkish lawmakers sure to push for a broader authorization and anti-interventionist voices seeking more limits.

    Already, Sen. Tim Kaine, D-Va., said he is "concerned about the breadth and vagueness of the U.S. ground troop language and will seek to clarify it."

    Tennessee Sen. Bob Corker, the chairman of the Senate Foreign Relations Committee, said he appreciated the president seeking the authorization and would quickly begin holding "rigorous hearings" on the White House request.

    "Voting to authorize the use of military force is one of the most important actions Congress can take, and while there will be differences, it is my hope that we will fulfill our constitutional responsibility, and in a bipartisan way, pass an authorization that allows us to confront this serious threat," Corker said.

    The White House insists it already has the authority to launch airstrikes against ISIS militants in Iraq and Syria, as the U.S. has been doing for months, but wants Congress to sign off in order to demonstrate American unity.

    In a letter to lawmakers accompanying the request, Obama urged them to "show the world we are united in our resolve to counter the threat."

    The proposed resolution listed ISIS atrocities in the region, including executions of American hostages and the "abduction, enslavement, torture, rape and forced marriage" of women and girls in the region.

    "It threatens American personnel and facilities located in the region and is responsible for the deaths of U.S. citizens James Foley, Steven Sotloff, Abdul-Rahman Peter Kassig, and Kayla Mueller," Obama said in his letter, listing the American hostages who died in ISIS custody.

    Obama plans to speak on his request from the White House Wednesday afternoon, at 3:30 p.m. ET.

    Obama's proposal launches an ideological debate over what authorities and limitations the commander in chief should have in pursuit of the extremists, with the shadow of lost American lives hanging over its fate. Confirmation of the death of 26-year-old humanitarian worker Mueller on the eve of Obama's proposal added new urgency, while the costly long-running wars in Iraq and Afghanistan were a caution to some lawmakers against yet another protracted military campaign.

    Obama is offering to limit authorization to three years, extending to the next president the powers and the debate over renewal for what he envisions as a long-range battle. He is proposing no geographic limitations where U.S. forces could pursue the elusive militants. The authorization covers the Islamic State and "associated persons or forces," defined as those fighting on behalf of or alongside IS "or any closely-related successor entity in hostilities against the United States or its coalition partners."

    The proposal bars "enduring offensive ground combat operations," an ambiguous term intended as compromise between lawmakers who want authority for ground troops and those who don't.

    Obama's resolution would repeal a 2002 authorization for force in Iraq, but maintain a 2001 authorization against Al Qaeda in Afghanistan, although Obama said in his letter to lawmakers his goal is to refine and ultimately repeal that authorization as well.

    Obama argues the congressional authorizations President George W. Bush used to justify military action after 9/11 are sufficient for him to deploy more than 2,700 U.S. troops to train and assist Iraqi security forces and conduct ongoing airstrikes against targets in Iraq and Syria. Critics have said Obama is overstepping outdated authorities to target the new threat from militants imposing a violent form of Shariah law in pursuit of the establishment of an Islamic state.

    The Associated Press contributed to this report.
     
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    Here we go again.....:facepalm:
     
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    Well... well.... I didnt know you wanted to get involved in the fight, Mr. Helper.
     
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    When's the last time Obo asked Congress for anything? I mean, he's the supreme leader. Just ask him.

    Seems like a stall move.
     
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    why isn't bombing them enough?
    so they killed some white girl--she was a moron--morons die all the time
     
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    ...theres a 6 month retro active clause in the request to cover actions already taken. i think the bigger story is that jordan has sent thousands to the iraq boarder and kurds fighting inside iraq with the jordinians at the boarder suggest a squeeze that will require ground troops with air assist.
     
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    WHY???

    fuck that shit.. stop wasting our fucking money over there

    fucking chicken hawk faggots
     
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    ...she was a fucking moon. "im in solidarity with the syrian people". a lot of good that did you and "the cause".
     
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    she was probably a lovely young lady
    and like plenty of young people she was silly in thinking people are nice and there's good in the world that just needs to be nurtured out
    she died for that nonsense
    why should thousands of more soldiers die for her stupidity

    but for sure--the world would be much nicer if it was full of goofy people like her
     
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    he's a warmonger! :grad:


















    can't wait to see how the left explains this away. :dance:
     
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    Another well placed thread.

    Congrats.

    :facepalm:
     
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    I'm a big Obama supporter and one thing that has pissed me off about him was toe in the water approach to dealing w/ ISIS. You cannot half-ass it against a bunch of evil fuckers like ISIS. Glad we are finally going to put some boots on the ground that'll wipe out that crazed group.
    We will have Arab support. This is the time you will see soldiers greeted w/ flowers and soldiers being kissed as they liberate towns and kill those assholes.
     
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    People like her reminds me of the idiots that climb the fence at the zoo to pet the polar bear.



    Why are we getting involved? Tell people to stay the fuck out of these places and become independent of oil. I thought Jordan was doing a fine job of blowing them up. It's another battle with no decisive enemy.
     
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    ...the u.s. should step back and let the jordinians conquer the place. theyre not going to flinch when it comes to kill them all and let god sort them out. thats what needs to be done, isis is a pox that needs to be wiped out.
     
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    I guess Obama can't keep his Nobel Peace Prize if he's only killing people with drones.
     
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    My first thought was, "who could be this flippn' dumb to think this?" Then I reread the first part, "I'm a big Obama supporter..."

    :facepalm: