Discussion in 'The Howard Stern Show' started by dawg, May 2, 2014.
Reid has no balls.
Reid is busy working on changing the name of the Redskins.
I'd like to change the name of our Senator.
Someone needs to 'splain to him that his ten seconds of fame are over. Perhaps he can now get back to doing what he does best--ignoring lawful court orders and dodging his responsibilities as a U.S. citizen. The rest of us will have to be content with flying over his "property" on our way to our jobs that we pay taxes on.
The story in today's Review Journal seems to be accurate. www.lvrj.com
[h=1]Bundy family, supporters file complaints against federal agents[/h]By HENRY BREAN LAS VEGAS REVIEW-JOURNAL May 2, 2014 - 12:02pm The Bundy show returned to Las Vegas Friday, as members of the embattled Bunkerville ranch family and their supporters gathered at police headquarters to file crime reports against federal agents and others involved in last month’s failed cattle roundup in northeastern Clark County.
About two dozen people filed reports alleging crimes ranging from assaults and threats with deadly weapons to impersonating a police officer.
“We expect the sheriff to investigate the crimes,” said Ammon Bundy, who was shot with a stun gun bt was not arrested during an angry clash with Bureau of Land Management rangers on April 9.
Bundy’s aunt, Margaret Houston, was thrown to the ground during the same incident, so that made up bulk of her formal complaint to Metro Friday.
The group gathered outside Metro’s main office on Martin Luther King Boulevard near U.S. Highway 95 at about 10 a.m. Initially, those there to file complaints were badly outnumbered by reporters and photographers there to watch them do it.
By the time Ammon Bundy walked to the front of the building to deliver a prepared statement, he was running out of places on his belt and his shirt collar to hang all the clip-on microphones from the media.
He talked about how federal authorities descended on their peaceful valley “in ‘Red Dawn’ fashion,” prompting the family to make dozens of 911 calls seeking protection from Metro. “Our cries of distress were met with silence,” Ammon Bundy said.
Noticeably absent Friday was Cliven Bundy, the family patriarch whose battle with the BLM began more than 20 years ago when he stopped paying to graze his livestock on a wide swath of public land about 80 miles northeast of the Las Vegas.
Federal authorities say Bundy now owes $1.1 million in unpaid fees and penalties, so with multiple court orders in hand they moved to impound his livestock on federal property on April 5. The BLM hastily canceled the roundup and backed down a week later when the Bundys and their supporters, many of them armed, marched on the corrals where the seized cattle were being kept.
The standoff brought Cliven Bundy worldwide attention and acclaim from small-government conservatives, but he was reduced to a national punchline two weeks later, after he delivered a pair of racist rants during his daily press conferences near his ranch.
Several of those who filed complaints Friday accuse federal agents involved the roundup of impersonating police officers. Bundy and company do not recognize the federal government’s authority over them and believe public land belongs only to the people of state and local jurisdictions where it is found, a legal argument that has been roundly rejected by judges and legal scholars.
As University of Nevada, Reno, geography professor Paul Starrs put it: “When Nevada obtained statehood, it gave up its public land.”
“His version of history just isn’t true,” Starrs said of Cliven Bundy. “Just because you say it doesn’t make it so.”
As Ammon Bundy hunched over his clipboard in the entrance to Metro Friday, a reporter asked him what he planned to include on his crime report form. He listed a few of his allegations and then smiled. “I’m not a lawyer,” he said. “We’re doing the best we can.”
You don’t need to have been roughed up like he and his aunt were to lodge a crime report, Ammon Bundy said. “It’s everyone who had guns pointed at them, everyone who was threatened.”
So does that mean the federal agents who had guns pointed at them by militia members can file complaints of their own? “Absolutely,” he said. “They have every right to do that with the county sheriff here.”
Mohave County, Ariz., resident Sean Harron showed up to press charges against the BLM in a T-shirt he had made that read “I fought at ‘The Battle of Bunkerville.’” He said he didn’t know the Bundys before he saw a YouTube video of the April 9 clash with BLm officers and decided to drive up to Bunkerville to see what was going on. “That was enough to get me off the couch.”
Once he got there, he said he had firearms trained on him by federal agents at least six times even though he wasn’t brandishing a weapon of his own. After he turned in his police report Friday, he waved his copy of the form in the air and let a cheer for the cameras.
There was no trouble at the event beyond the Bundy supporters and camera crews that briefly clogged the front entrance of Metro’s office, startling some customer service clerks and bystanders there to conduct other business.
A handful of Metro officers, a few of them smiling at the spectacle, stood at a distance and watched as members of the group filed their reports. Aside from their cameras and clipboards, the Bundys and their friends appeared to be unarmed.
Who is the biggest whore between the two?
send in a drone
Most times, when a land or homeowner owes money through a civil action, a lien can be placed on the property.
The BLM spent upwards of $5 million (at least) to collect on supposedly a million dollar debt.
There is much more going on here.
Maybe. Then again if cost-benefit analysis was the whole of law enforcement, there would be a lot of very serious crimes that would never get solved because it costs so much more to investigate and litigate a given crime than they are "worth" in terms of dollar losses. I say Ockham's razor applies here until proven otherwise: Guy doesn't like the price going up on grazing fees so he invents a pretext that the land was somehow always his--ergo, refuse to pay. A lien really doesn't mean a damn thing until the encumbered property is either the subject of a transaction, like a sale, or the government tries to enforce a judgment through seizure.
Oh god my sides… reps incoming.
Wonder where Cowboy Cliven gets those "tight fiit" jeans that can accommodate his ample beer gut?
What a huge turnout for that guys speech.
Why don't you reply another dozen or so times?
Bundy is a rookie at PR games and the government is just sitting back and waiting for him to fuck himself then hit him hard when his supporters start to distance themselves from him. After the slavery comments he's 60% there already. If he was smart he'd shut the fuck up and go ranching and let the govt make the next move.