California debates 'yes means yes' sex assault law

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    That whole fucking state is insane. Soon you'll need to have a signed contract before you have sex with someone. :facepalm:

    http://news.yahoo.com/california-debates-yes-means-yes-sex-assault-law-144457610.html
    California debates 'yes means yes' sex assault law
    SAN DIEGO (AP) — College students have heard a similar refrain for years in campaigns to stop sexual assault: No means no.

    Now, as universities around the country that are facing pressure over the handling of rape allegations adopt policies to define consensual sex, California is poised to take it a step further. Lawmakers are considering what would be the first-in-the-nation measure requiring all colleges that receive public funds to set a standard for when "yes means yes."

    Defining consensual sex is a growing trend by universities in an effort to do more to protect victims. From the University of California system to Yale, schools have been adopting standards to distinguish when consent was given for a sexual activity and when it was not.

    Legislation passed by California's state Senate in May and coming before the Assembly this month would require all schools that receive public funds for student financial assistance to set a so-called "affirmative consent standard" that could be used in investigating and adjudicating sexual assault allegations. That would be defined as "an affirmative, unambiguous and conscious decision" by each party to engage in sexual activity.

    Silence or lack of resistance does not constitute consent. The legislation says it's also not consent if the person is drunk, drugged, unconscious or asleep.

    Lawmakers say consent can be nonverbal, and universities with similar policies have outlined examples as maybe a nod of the head or moving in closer to the person.

    Several state legislatures, including Maryland, Texas and Connecticut, introduced bills in the past year to push colleges to do more after a White House task force reported that 1 in 5 female college students is a victim of sexual assault. The U.S. Education Department also took the unprecedented step of releasing the names of schools facing federal investigation for the way they handle sexual abuse allegations.

    But no state legislation has gone as far as California's bill in requiring a consent standard.

    Critics say the state is overstepping its bounds. The Los Angeles Times in an editorial after the bill passed the state Senate 27-4 wrote that it raises questions as to whether it is "reasonable" or "enforceable." The legislation is based on the White House task force's recommendations.

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    "It seems extremely difficult and extraordinarily intrusive to micromanage sex so closely as to tell young people what steps they must take in the privacy of their own dorm rooms," the newspaper said.

    Some fear navigating the murky waters of consent spells trouble for universities.

    "Frequently these cases involve two individuals, both of whom maybe were under the influence of alcohol or drugs, and it can be very tricky to ascertain whether consent was obtained," said Ada Meloy, general counsel of the American Council on Education, which represents college presidents.

    She said schools need to guarantee a safe environment for students, while law enforcement is best suited for handling more serious sexual assault cases.

    John F. Banzhaf III, a George Washington University's Law School professor, believes having university disciplinary panels interpret vague cues and body language will open the door for more lawsuits.

    The legal definition of rape in most states means the perpetrator used force or the threat of force against the victim, but the California legislation could set the stage in which both parties could accuse each other of sexual assault, he said.

    "This bill would very, very radically change the definition of rape," he said.

    University of California at Berkeley student Meghan Warner, 20, said that's a good thing. She said she was sexually assaulted during her freshman year by two men at a fraternity but didn't report it because she believed "that unless it was a stranger at night with a weapon who attacked you when you were walking home, that it wasn't rape. It's just a crappy thing that happened." She now runs campus workshops to teach students what constitutes consent.

    "Most students don't know what consent is," she said. "I've asked at the workshops how many people think if a girl is blacked out drunk that it's OK to have sex with her. The amount of people who raised their hands was just startling."

    Defining consent may be easy to do on paper, said Laura Nguyen, a 21-year-old San Diego State University senior, but "we're talking about college students out at night and the reality is there's not just 'yes' or 'no.' There is a lot of in between. I really think it depends on the situation."

    The legislation initially stated that "if there is confusion as to whether a person has consented or continues to consent to sexual activity, it is essential that the participants stop the activity until the confusion can be clearly resolved."

    After some interpreted that as asking people to stop after each kiss to get a verbal agreement before going to the next level, the bill was amended to say consent must be "ongoing" and "can be revoked at any time."

    "California needs to provide our students with education, resources, consistent policies and justice so that the system is not stacked against survivors," state Sen. Kevin de Leon, a Los Angeles Democrat, said in promoting the bill.

    Supporters say investigators would have to determine whether consent had been given by both parties instead of focusing on whether the complainant resisted or said no.

    Denice Labertew of the California Coalition Against Sexual Assault said the bill fosters a cultural change: "There's a lot of criticism around affirmative consent because it requires us to change the way we normally think about this."
     
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    What a joke now these ho's can't even say the word ''No'' to stop the act, the male have to be Psychic..
     
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    I hope every one of those fucking men and women liberal hippies gets raped by a black man with aids.
     
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    ...penis envy. :coffee:
     
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    Yes means anal.
     
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    University of California at Berkeley student Meghan Warner, 20, said that's a good thing. She said she was sexually assaulted during her freshman year by two men at a fraternity but didn't report it because she believed "that unless it was a stranger at night with a weapon who attacked you when you were walking home, that it wasn't rape. It's just a crappy thing that happened." She now runs campus workshops to teach students what constitutes consent.


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    This looks like consent
     
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    That's the problem the day she fuck the 2 guys she's ok with that, the next day is when she feel like a cheap whore then scream rape,
    this bitches make poor choices then don't take responsibility.
     
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    Yes means yes, until the next morning, when people see you doing the walk of shame... and then it becomes, "he forced me."
     
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    ‘Rape culture’ leads to manhunts on campus
    By Andrea Peyser

    August 11, 2014 | 8:10am


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    Ethan Peloe swears he just did what comes naturally to any red-blooded American male university student. He says he had a threesome. And it cost him, big time.

    The University of Cincinnati junior had had a few drinks in March when he met a couple of young ladies. One thing led to another, he claims, and the women guided Peloe to one of their dorm rooms on campus.

    This is where a night of fun turned into an Orwellian nightmare.

    Lady No. 1 soon claimed she awoke from slumber to find Peloe attempting to have sexual intercourse with her, told him no and ran from the room. Lady No. 2 claimed she woke up and found Peloe having sex with her sleeping body.

    Were these women Peloe’s victims? Or did they suffer from regret or shame? An investigation by the university’s police department found that Peloe did nothing illegal. His lawyer, Mike Allen, told me cops collected evidence using rape kits and took statements from witnesses. They also reviewed surveillance video that indicated the women were not intoxicated.

    Cellphone records showed that the gals, who claimed to be passed out on the night in question, sent text messages to Peloe and later joked about the case. Members of a grand jury declined to indict him for a crime. The case should have ended there.

    It was just getting started.

    Moms and dads, be afraid for your sons. All across America, men are getting snared in what feminist activists and leftists call a “rape culture’’ that supposedly exists on college campuses.

    In April, the Obama administration released a report concluding that nearly 1 in 5 women attending institutions of higher education become victims of unwanted sex acts. Legislation has been proposed in the Senate to tackle this “epidemic.”

    Never mind that one of the sources of the 1-in-5 statistic was a 2007 online survey in which some respondents, who were rewarded with $10 gift certificates, equated drunken hookups and men’s attempts at stealing kisses as examples of sexual assault, according to Christina Hoff Sommers, resident scholar at the right-leaning American Enterprise Institute. She spoke out against the nonsensical notion that huge numbers of women are being sexually assaulted on campuses at a June panel conducted in Washington by the Independent Women’s Forum, a conservative think tank.

    “I think this is a war on men that started a long time ago in gender studies classes and in women’s advocacy groups eager to believe that men are toxic,’’ Hoff Sommers told me. She believes that a more reliable statistic was contained in a 2003 report by the US Bureau of Justice Statistics, which found that 1 in 40 college and university students are sexually assaulted. Still too many? Yes. But that does not excuse what happened to Ethan Peloe.

    Peloe filed a lawsuit against the University of Cincinnati and its assistant dean of students in May, claiming that his civil right to due process was violated after the school conducted an administrative hearing that he likened to a “kangaroo court.’’ Last month, he added the claim that the university made him the victim of gender discrimination.

    Peloe testified at his hearing, as did his accusers. But he was not permitted to introduce any evidence that might exonerate him. He was found guilty of violating the university’s code of conduct by engaging in “physical abuse or harm” and “harassment’’ against his accusers, who were identified in public papers only by their initials, “A.D.” and “A.R.” Peloe’s name was no secret.

    A panel of faculty and students nailed him based on a “preponderance of evidence’’ — meaning that it’s 50.1 percent likely that he committed these offenses — rather than the reasonable-doubt standard that rules courts of law.

    Around the country, 33 men have sued institutions of higher education for railroading them through these kinds of tribunals. A student attending New York’s Columbia University claims the school unjustly branded him as having committed sexual assault against a girl after she declared, falsely, he said, that she never consented to a night of passion.

    University of Cincinnati spokeswoman M.B. Reilly told me “college campuses are expected to serve as prosecutors, defense attorneys, judges, juries and courts of appeals all in one.’’

    This is not fair to anyone involved.

    Things went cuckoo in 2011 after the US Department of Education threatened campuses with the loss of federal funds if they failed to crack down on sexual-assault allegations. The result is that little has been done to prevent real sex crimes while schools chase phantom rapists. These guys could be people you love.

    This could even happen to you.
     
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    When my kid is eventually in college, I'm going to get him a picture frame nanny cam and tell him to record every sexual encounter he has, to shield himself from buyer's remorse rape cries.
     
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    please sign this contract and will you please circle on this diagram the areas Im allowed to cum.
     
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    As the article explains, even if there isn't enough evidence to go to to cops or DA, the school can hold their own hearing, where a bunch of angry liberal 60's holdover man haters sit and judge you.
     
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    this is how the administration is trying to destroy the military as well. Make up phony numbers about rape in the field and demonize anyone that is accused regardless of if they are guilty or not.
     
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    It's getting to the point where a man is better off avoiding women altogether. I say get a laptop with a good internet connecton and one of these:

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