News California Senate votes to raise smoking age to 21

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  1. dawg

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    The state Senate on Tuesday approved a bill that would raise the minimum legal age for buying cigarettes and other tobacco products from 18 to 21 as part of an effort to reduce smoking by young people.

    Sen. Ed Hernandez (D-West Covina) said he introduced the bill, SB 151, out of concern that an estimated 90% of tobacco users start before age 21. Raising the minimum age will mean that fewer teenagers pick up the habit, said Hernandez, an optometrist.

    He cited a study done by the Institute of Medicine for the federal Food and Drug Administration that concluded that raising the smoking age to 21 would cut smoking by 12% more than existing control policies.

    β€œIt’s time to stop allowing tobacco companies to make the deadly product so readily available to our youth,’’ Hernandez said.

    Tobacco-related disease killed 34,000 Californians in 2009 and cost the state $18.1 billion in medical expenses, according to studies by UC San Francisco.

    Supporters of the bill include the American Academy of Pediatrics, the American Cancer Society Cancer Action Network and the California Medical Assn. Opponents include the California Retailers Assn., the Cigar Assn. of America and Legal Services for Prisoners with Children.

    The cigar group argued that people are eligible to vote, serve in the military and enter into contracts at the age of 18, and therefore should be able to make their own decisions concerning smoking.

    The Senate passed the bill by a vote of 26 to 8; it now heads to the Assembly for consideration.

    If signed into law, California could be among the first states in the nation to increase the smoking age to 21. Lawmakers in Hawaii have approved a similar measure, which is currently under consideration by that state's governor.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/politi...-senate-smoking-age-to-21-20150601-story.html
     
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    Gretsch Man Well-Known Member

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    Aren't 18 year olds supposed to be adults?
     
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    Bad idea.... You can die for your country but not smoke?
     
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    Gretsch Man Well-Known Member

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    Or have a drink.
     
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    Nipplehead (D- West Covina) might as well raise it to 65. No minimum age will change the age kids begin to smoke.
     
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    I had my brain in my ass at 18..............no, wait.............I still have my brains in my ass:(
     
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    We're also not supposed to talk/text while we drive, smoke at the parks/beaches, solicit cash on the street corners or hose off our walkways, they just keep making unenforceable law after unenforceable law.
     
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    Yeah, it's pretty stupid.
    The drinking age was 18 when I was a kid.
    Sometimes I think it's best to get all that stuff out of the way when you're young.
    It just makes it more taboo to not allow you to do it until you're 21.
    Blah.
     
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    Smoking is a nasty habit. Stop it and put the tobacco companies out of business. I quit right after high school.
     
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    I did too but society expects 18 year olds to work and make their own decisions. I'd think the option for smoking and drinking would be part of being an adult.
     
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    Kids drink all the time. I imagine they will smoke too. The guys heart is in the right place though.
     
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    "For their concern.."
    Bullshit..everything is a business,and it's about $$$$$$.
    Giant tobacco companies against state legislation.
    If they "cared" that much ..they would try to raise the drinking age to stop drunk driving..
    Fuckin idiots.
    You're old enough to serve for the military..but you can't buy a cigarette....
    Makes perfect sense..but hey..it's coming from a county that just put a Tranny on the cover of Vaniety Fair magazine..so..I get it
     
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    He's a fucking nanny-stater ... typical of the majority in Sacramento.
     
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    I thought according to the Health Care Law you are considered a child thru age 26
     
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    smoking is silly
    it's pricey, it doesn't really get you high like a real fun drug, you stink,it ruins your taste and smell functionality and whatnot,
    it turns you into a dirty savage


    it's heinous really
     
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    The laws are a joke. On my way back from Iraq we stopped in Germany and they wouldn't let us drink if we were under 21.I was 20. Carry this m4, morphene, other drugs and shit but u can't drink and now smoke
     
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    Agreed but that's not really the issue.
     
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    This is legislators pretending to do work. :facepalm: Maybe they can vote on acceptable wall colors for the underpasses.
     
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    18 year olds can smoke medical pot.
     
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    I suppose that correct
    18 is fine---I think that should be the drinking age as well
    adults should be allowed to make terrible decisions
     
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