Cars

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  1. RenchFries

    RenchFries Official Dawgshed Dutch representative Gold

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    Let's talk about cars. Let me give you an idea what it's like to own a car in the Netherlands. You will all be very happy with your laws and taxes over there in the USA after reading this I'm sure.


    I'm cruising through Craigslist cars all the time just for the hell of it. I like American cars because they're huge compared to what we're driving here. I even think a lot of cars that are considered shitty over there are cool, and I can't believe how cheap big and luxurious cars are. It seems to me you can get a pretty nice Cadillac with not a lot of miles for 5000-10.000 2nd hand.

    Alright here we go. The reason we drive small cars in the Netherlands is that the government taxes the shit out of everything with four wheels. I'd love to get a cheap old Jaguar or a big Mercedes or something, but just to own it and to fuel it up would cost a fortune.

    We have to pay road tax. The heavier and less fuel efficient your car is, the more road tax you'll have to pay. It doesn't matter how much you drive, you always need to pay that road tax. My dad drives a Volkswagen Passat which is considered a mid-sized car in the States but over here it's considered very big (you'll almost never see Cadillac-sized cars or SUV's here). He has to pay over a thousand a year in road tax on it. Even a small car will cost you over 300 a year. That's just to own the damn thing.

    Then there's special car sales tax, which can be as high as 38% on a new car, also depending on weight and fuel efficiency. That's right. up to 38%. Basically anything with an engine in it that's bigger than 1.6L gets expensive. Almost every car you see is a 4-cylinder, even the mid-sized ones. Only the really expensive cars have V6's or V8's.

    A BMW 7 series will cost you at least €100.000 ($131.000) and 38% of that will be pure taxes. The prices start at $69,156 in the US. My dads Volkswagen was around 37.000 Euros. I've seen ads on TV in the States that they start around $20.000 there. It's really almost twice as expensive over here. Even a small car like a Volkswagen Golf that has a fun 2.0L engine will cost you a lot of money, because it's not as fuel efficient and light as a similar-sized plastic Japanese car with a 1.2L engine.

    Even if you buy a 2nd hand car, you'll have to pay car sales tax on it (again!), by the way. Want to buy a 5-year old Jaguar? Gotta pay around 20% sales tax on it, even though the first owner already paid the full 38%.

    It's also mandatory for everyone to have their car checked out yearly, which also costs at least €500 just for checking it out. It's a good initiative for safety, but still, it's another big amount of dough added to the list. If you haven't got your car checked out in time, your insurance won't cover you, which is a huge risk. If a cop pulls you over and you haven't done the yearly check up, they take your car away, give you a huge fine and you get your car back after they checked it out and fixed it for a very premium price. If you don't want that, they just keep your car and get rid of it.

    Of course you also need insurance, so that's another cost.

    Then there's gas, which is currently €1.75 a liter, which is $8,40 a gallon. It's fucking insane and no fun.

    My mom drives around in this kind of car:
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    and it costs €70 ($90) to fill it up. It does 35MPG, but still.


    Anyway, back to Craigslist

    Every time I see a listing like this:


    http://houston.craigslist.org/ctd/2938500486.html

    or this

    http://houston.craigslist.org/cto/2924870951.html


    I always wonder, is that a guaranteed piece of shit or are there also a lot of good ones like that for sale? Like, is it really possible to drive around in a huge-ass car with leather and everything electric that costs less than 2000 bucks over there?
     
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    Mur soon VIP

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    X8.. Way too much info nigga.
     
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    Vyb serial chiller Gold

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    Sure those ads are pretty typical. You can get into cars like that for about $2k, but it usually doesn't take long before you're spending another $2k on repairs.

    Still, your post makes me glad I'm here. :up:

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    Schmoopy Shit Mult Hunter

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    You've gotta be kidding me. I ain't reading all that shit! :lol:
     
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    Chigs The finest in the Nation VIP

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    [video=youtube;r6Ksrmbwr1s]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r6Ksrmbwr1s[/video]

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    Schmoopy Shit Mult Hunter

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    Jewfro read it. :facepalm:
     
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    Vyb serial chiller Gold

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    He's from out of town yo. :pie:
     
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    Vyb serial chiller Gold

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    $8.40 / gallon. :facepalm:

    I'll never bitch about gas prices again.
     
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    If gas hits $8/gallon here, I'm getting a skateboard.
     
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    Vyb serial chiller Gold

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    Americans would probably be thinner. :bigthink
     
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    Sorry, too wired to sleep & no energy for porn.
     
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    zhukov Time traveler Gold

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    thanks for the report, but we already know all about the continent known in the States as Faggitville.
     
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    We started the States, mofo.
     
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    That is a lot of text to digest.
     
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    Buy a Camaro.
     
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    Old luxury cars selling for cheap are never a good deal.
     
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    Do they do much conversion to propane in Amsterdam? Years ago, a friend almost had a deal to sell a jacked up pick up to some guys that were going to ship it to Italy and convert it to propane, but it fell through. They said most trucks over there got converted.
     
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    That road tax and all the other taxes/fees are bullshit.
    But I wonder if we don't have them here too, but they're just bundled under something else, like local or state taxes? If not, that's really bullshit.

    Most of our extra fees are taken by insurance companies... if you have an expensive car, if your weight-to-horsepower ratio is deemed "high risk", if you lack certain safety or anti-theft features. But ironically if you bought an enormous old gas-guzzler your insurance would probably be much less than on any new car.

    Only thing that'll get you with those old cars is inspection and emissions, which is required every year. Most of these old ones will need something mechanically come inspection time. And most won't pass emissions so you may have to pay out the ass to get it to and you'll have to do that every year ...Or just find a mechanic you know who will overlook that, like I do (I don't drive an old gas-guzzler, I just don't have cats).

    Regardless inspection/emissions here may even out with your road tax. HOWEVER it's not required in all US states. AND if you have a newer car it should pass no problem.