WTF Century Gothic and Italian Made Armor 13th-16th Century

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    Saw this on imgur, thought it was pretty cool

    Armour of Holy Roman Emperor Ferdinand II (Italian Made, 1600s)

    Ferdinand II (9 July 1578 – 15 February 1637), a member of the House of Habsburg, was Holy Roman Emperor, King of Bohemia, and King of Hungary. His rule coincided with the Thirty Years' War. wiki

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    Helmet Collection, Philadelphia Museum of Art

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    Italian and Milanese Armour at Poldi Pezzoli Museum, Milan Italy

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    Armour designed for the Kolbenturnier, dated to the 1480s

    The Kolbenturnier was a late form of the tournament, played with two teams using wooden clubs (Kolben) to hit the opponents' helmet crest.

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    Italian, Visor and Bevor c.1580

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    Helmet for use in combat on foot, Germany (Augsburg: Lorenz Helmschmid), 1480-85

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    European medieval helmets evolved from the seventh to seventeenth centuries as part of body armor, beginning with a boiled leather conical casque (spangenhelm) worn by tribal warriors over a hood of mail. During the feudal era, a large, heavy iron pot (heaume) protected the head from lances in chivalry tournaments, and the towering steel snouted visor (basinet) was worn in battle. Archers and pikemen used lighter, more flexible helmets with neck guards during the Hundred Years’ War (c. 1337-1453). By 1550, the Italian-invented armet, with its thin laminated iron or steel plates and joints providing ease of movement, was adopted by many armies in Europe. http://angelasancartier.net/helmet

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    Armor of Infante Luis, Prince of Asturias (1707–1724)
    Armorer: Signature probably refers to Jean Drouart (French, Paris, died before October 1715)
    Date: dated 1712
    Geography: Paris
    Culture: French, Paris
    Medium: Steel, blued and gilt; gilt brass, silk, cotton, metallic yarn, paper

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    Gauntlets and Armor footwear, 13-15 century

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    15th Century Gothic Armour

    "Gothic Plate Armour" (German: Gotischer Plattenpanzer) is the term for the type of steel plate armour made in the Holy Roman Empire during the 15th century.

    The most elaborate examples of Gothic-style armour were produced after the end of the Gothic period proper, during the German Renaissance (first half of the 16th century), but this type is more specifically classed as Maximilian armour. According to this nomenclature, Gothic armour proper was worn during the later 15th century, a transitional type called Schott-Sonnenberg style was current during c. 1500 to 1515, and Maximilian armour proper during 1515 to 1525.

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    Early Gothic Armor, c. 1470

    The term Gothic refers to the characteristic "German" style of this armour, specifically its decoration with fluting or ridges imitating the fashion in dress of the period, while it was functionally very similar to French, Italian or English plate armour of the same period.
    http://i.imgur.com/ydz7ABU.jpg

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    Savoyard Helmet (Todenkopf), c. 1600-1620, Blackened Steel

    Italy or Germany, early 17th century steel

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    Parade Armour of Henry II of France, c. 1500s

    Henry II was a monarch of the House of Valois who ruled as King of France from 31 March 1547 until his death in 1559. wiki

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    Gauntlet, Henry II of France

    Left gauntlet detail.

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    ca. 1450 - composite Kastenbrust armour, South German, Wien Museum Karlsplatz, Wien, Austria by roelipilami, via Flickr

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    Tournament Shield, Germany, ca. 1500

    Medium: Wood, burlap, leather, gesso, polychromy
    Dimensions: H. 26 3/8 in. (67 cm); W. 12 3/8 in. (31.5 cm); D. 5 1/2 in. (14 cm); outer circumference 19 5/16 in. (49 cm); H. of lance rest 2 3/8 in. (6 cm)

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    Image detail for -Knight

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    Armour for horse and man, and field armour Armour for horse and man: Italy (probably Milan), ~1565. Field Armour: Italy, ~1575

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    The Golden Gauntlet, Henri III of France’s armour (details), c.1550

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    Armour of George Clifford, 3rd Earl of Cumberland (1558 - 1605)

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    Savoyard Cuirassier's armour, c. 1600

    In 1602, Charles Emmanuel I, Duke of Savoy (1580-1630) attempted to besiege the city of Geneva. On December the 11th of that year, he commanded his troops to the city during the night, and they surrounded the city walls at 2:00 AM. The Savoyard cuirassiers were ordered to dismount and climb the city walls in full armour as a shock tactic. However, the alarm was raised by a night watchman and Geneva's militia rose to meet the invaders. The attempted raid was a disastrous failure, and 54 Savoyards were killed, and many more were captured. Charles Emmanuel's army retreated in a panic and the Savoyard prisoners were executed.

    The heavy helmets worn by Charles Emmanuel's troops, which featured visors made in crude imitation of a human face, were henceforth known as "Savoyard" helmets after this notorious incident.

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    Polish Winged Hussar

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    Polish hussar armor

    The winged hussar arrived with the reforms of the king of Poland and grand duke of Lithuania in the 1570s. The hussars were the leading, or even elite, branch of cavalry in the Polish army from the 1570s until 1776. Most hussars were recruited from the wealthier Polish nobility. wiki

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    Close Helmet with Mask Visor
    Armorer: Attributed to Kolman Helmschmid (German, Augsburg 1471–1532)
    Date: ca. 1515
    Geography: Augsburg
    Culture: German, Augsburg
    Medium: Steel, gold
    Dimensions: Wt. 4 lb. 12 oz. (2146 g

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    Field armour of William Somerset, earl of Worcester, about 1570

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    The 16th century manuscript, listed simply as: 'Fechtbuch: Libr. pict. A 83' is hosted by the State Library of Berlin. This fencing manuscript, made from paper*, was produced in the early 1500s in the Bavarian city of Nuremberg. There is next to no online commentary and the work consists of about 140 pages, featuring ink and watercolour/ink-wash illustration

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    A helmet of the guard of King Louis XIII of France, 1610.

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    Milanese armor, c. 1500-1550

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    Medieval English, displayed at the Museum of Ethnology, Vienna

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    Helmet of HRE Emperor Charles V (1500-58)

    An 1862 photograph by Charles Clifford.

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    Armour of Karl X Gustav of Sweden, 1660

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    Armour pieces, c. 1525

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    Tournament or Cavalry Shield, German, ca. 1450

    Medium: Wood, leather, linen, gesso, polychromy, silver
    Dimensions: H. 22 in. (55.88 cm); W. 16 in. (40.64 cm)

    European Armor/Armour, Examples from 14th-19th century, Collected Set 1
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    www.metmuseum.org

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    Visored Sallet, c. 1490-1500 Germany, 16th Century

    Gothic armour was often combined with a Gothic sallet, which included long and sharp rear-plate that protected the back of the neck and head.

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    King Henry VIII of England

    Henry VIII (28 June 1491 – 28 January 1547) was King of England from 21 April 1509 until his death. He was Lord, and later assumed the Kingship, of Ireland, and continued the nominal claim by English monarchs to the Kingdom of France. Henry was the second monarch of the Tudor dynasty, succeeding his father, Henry VII.
    www.metmuseum.org

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    Henry VIII Italian-made suit, c.1544. Metropolitan Museum of Art, New York

    Measurements of his armour show that, between his 20s and his 50s, the 6ft 1in monarch's waist grew from 32in to 52in, his chest expanded from 39in to 53in, and, by the time of his death in 1547 at the age of 56, he is likely to have weighed 28 stone (392 lbs).

    http://www.independent.co.uk

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    Made for Henry (r. 1509–47) towards the end of his life when he was overweight and with gout. Constructed for use on horse and on foot it was probably worn by the king during his last military campaign, the siege of Boulogne in 1544. 2
    www.metmuseum.org

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    Henry excelled at jousting and hunting. More than pastimes, they were political devices that served multiple goals, from enhancing his athletic royal image to impressing foreign emissaries and rulers, to conveying Henry's ability to suppress any rebellion.

    Henry's motto was "Coeur Loyal" ("true heart"), and he had this embroidered on his clothes in the form of a heart symbol and with the word "loyal".

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    Pavise shields - designed to protect crossbowmen or archers during the medieval period

    A pavise shield is a large convex shield of European origin used to protect the entire body, designed to protect crossbowmen or archers during the medieval period, particularly during sieges.

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    Bird suit of armor - Prague Castle

    Probably made by a contemporary artist.

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    ca. 1490 - sallet, German, Bayerisches Armeemuseum, Ingolstadt, Bayern, Germany

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    16th Century, Italian. Etched and Gilded steel, made for the Foot Tournament, c. 1590

    Steel with brass rivets, leather and velvet fittings.

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    Gothic Armour on display in War Gallery by Royal Armouries. The Royal Armouries is Britain’s national museum of arms and armour. This piece is in the Leeds location.

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    Closed Sallet with Grotesque Face (Schembart Visor), c. 1500

    Germany, Nuremberg, early 16th Century
    painted steel

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    Great Bascinet, Early 1400s

    The Bascinet developed from the steel cap worn under the great helm of the 13th century. These caps were also called bascinets or cervelliere, though cervelliere was sometimes used in period literature to mean the lining/padding of helmets.

    Initially the bascinet was worn either over or under the mail coif, in combination with a padded arming cap. When worn under the coif, the bascinet could have given the unnaturally swollen appearance of the heads of knights so often depicted in art and on effigies of the period.

    http://www.myarmoury.com/feature_spot_bascinet.php

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    Fechtbuch (Fight book). Fencing manuscript produced ca. early 1500s in the Bavarian city of Nuremburg

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    Italian Horse Armor, ca. 1580-90

    Made of etched steel, leather, copper alloy, and textiles. The weight, including cushion saddle, is 93 lb.
    www.metmuseum.org

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    Boy's Armour

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    Visored Sallet, Gothic style, circa 1500. Russet steel, broad skull of one piece.

    Gothic Sallet helmet, rough from the hammer, studded with lining rivets, fitted with neck-guard of three fluted lames, pivoted large visor slightly convex over the front; pierced with slotted breathes and slotted sights all with embossed flanged edges, closed by a spring-catch on the right.

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    Field Armour of Julius, Duke of Brunswick, Germany. c. 1500s

    North German field armour made for the court of Julius, Duke of Brunswickwolfenbüttel, Brunswick, circa 1562-63.

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    Germany, style of armours made in Nuremberg ~1480-90.

    Armor for the Stechzeug joust

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    Bonus Osprey Illustration; weaponry

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    I'd like to put some of that on and sword fight some faggots from this board.
     
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    The depth of ornamentation on some of the armor is unreal.

    I assume those suits were never intended to see combat.
     
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    Yea probably not, they do look bad ass though.
     
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    SouthernListen I don't follow the crowd. Sorry about that. VIP

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    They had "don't ask don't tell" rules back then too. But they knew.
     
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    now that's craftsmanship :grad:
     
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    Amazing level of craftsmanship, from every period in history.
     
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    These pictures don't do the suits justice, you have to see them in a museum. They are so well made, so ornate, so much attention to detail and they are 400-500 years old is mind boggling! I would have loved to hear a squadron of these guys rolling into battle.
     
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    it would be neat to wear some
    just to see if it was actually something you could move in
     
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    Great pics, thank you. :hat:
     
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    :thumbup2:
     
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    I was thinking the same, some of the suits seem very cumbersome, I wonder how they would actually perform in battle.
     
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    Great thread. Thanks.
     
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    Must have been hot as hell in those things. I can't imagine what it was like to fight while wearing armor.
     
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    Yea wearing metal armor on a hot day, must feel like stepping into your car after it's been parked in summer time, only no A/C.