Politics CIA: Congress Paving Way for Imprisonment Of U.S. Officials, Collapse of National Security

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  1. dawg

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    CIA Director John Brennan warned on Wednesday that Congress’s override of a presidential veto of contested new legislation will pave the way for foreign nations hostile to the United States to detain American officials at will for alleged crimes, according to a statement.

    Brennan expressed strong opposition to Congress’s override of a bill permitting American victims of the 9/11 terror attacks to sue Saudi Arabia for its alleged involvement in the plot.

    However, the bill—known as the Justice Against Sponsors of Terrorism Act, or JASTA—will also provide similar legal recourse to foreign nations, meaning that they could detain top U.S. officials, military leaders, and others.

    Leading U.S. officials, including Brennan and Defense Secretary Ash Carter, have warned that the consequences of the bill would enable foreign nations to meddle in U.S. counterterrorism operations and force the disclosure of sensitive classified material.

    JASTA “will have grave implications for the national security of the United States,” Brennan said. “The most damaging consequence would be for those U.S. government officials who dutifully work overseas on behalf of our country. The principle of sovereign immunity protects U.S. officials every day, and is rooted in reciprocity”.

    “If we fail to uphold this standard for other countries, we place our own nation’s officials in danger,” Brennan said. “No country has more to lose from undermining that principle than the United States—and few institutions would be at greater risk than CIA.”

    Carter made a similar argument earlier this week, telling top lawmakers that the legislation sets the stage for foreign nations to seize U.S. assets abroad and detain troops for alleged crimes.

    A coalition of Iraqis has already vowed to take America to court for war crimes.

    http://freebeacon.com/national-secu...ent-u-s-officials-collapse-national-security/
     
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    This could lead to WWIII. Is Congress putting their own political careers ahead of National Security?
     
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    I seen this guy on cnn last night
    he's not exactly the life of the party

    I get why lawmakers voted to override the veto
    the easiest and most popular thing to do is side with the families of 9/11 vicitms
    but it likely does come with some unintended consequences--life is funny like that
     
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    I see it as Congress letting the American people do what they're too chicken shit to do, hold the Saudis somewhat accountable for 9/11 and other linked attacks.
     
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    if the Saudis were involved in 9/11 and we supported the Saudis
    are we involved in 9/11?
    could we be sued by ourselves?

    this is like one of those time travel movies where you should avoid your future/past self at all costs
    or else the universe will explode (actually it's nothing like that-i got no idea what i'm going for here)
     
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    I'd like to see the Saudis held accountable also, but the head of the CIA is advising against it because it is dangerous. What do we do if some of our Marines are captured and put on trial or if billions of dollars in American assets are confiscated? This could have very serious reprecussions.
     
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    Could also be that when they take saudis to court they will expose more of the truth
     
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    Does the bill allow 9/11 families to sue the US government too?

     
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    If foreign governments are going to detain US citizens for past actions maybe now is the time for a nice vacation to the Middle East for Dick Chaney.
     
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    :facepalm:
     
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    The anti Obama republican congress just trying to make him look bad is all.
    And it works becuz people are dumb.
     
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    You're living proof.
     
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    It was passed with bipartisan support, dummy. From the New York Times:
    Democrats in large numbers joined with Republicans to deliver a remarkable rebuke to the president. The 97-to-1 vote in the Senate and the 348-to-77 vote in the House displayed the enduring power of the Sept. 11 families in Washington and the diminishing influence here of the Saudi government.​
     
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    A guy with a name like JameDUMB should not comment on other peoples intelligence.
     
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    My mistake. I should have said congress and not Republican congress
     
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    Another knee jerk reaction without facts. :jj:
     
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    Oh, so 9/11 was a Saudi military operation?
     
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    Hey bozo. Try reading the post above yours before you make a comment.
     
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    So you're now arguing that the democrats in congress did this just to make their party's leader (Obama) look bad? and you have the cajones to call other people stupid?
     
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    :jj: