Discussion in 'The Howard Stern Show' started by goldtopper, Jan 7, 2016.
It helps to be a musician to understand that this shit happens all the time when restaurants think they're doing the world a favor by "letting" a working musician play without paying them.
That restaurant went to the Howard Stern School of Business.
I don't like the live musician in a restaurant thing
Working for plugs.... nice.
no one is forcing a musician to play in their establishments for free
I like a quiet duo perhaps 50 feet away, but strolling musicians? Accordions, violins, and worst of all, Mariachis, No way!!. I have a standard line for them.
"Senor, would you like to request a song?"
"Yes, can you play somewhere else?"
They look at each other.."I don't think we know that..." Suddenly they realize what's up, scowl and move along.
Is this Captian Obvious line?
How about if you're a carpenter and some cheap-ass place says "hey, we'll let you do our cabinets for free and tell people who did them?"
Nobody's forcing anyone here, but to argue that it's not classless or cheap is just being contrary.
you know up front you're not getting paid
it's your choice
i'm gonna make free food for everyone that wants it
no one gave me money?
Your username is an amazing coincidence... or not.
yeah thats it
It is a classic scam. Idiots will advertise for "STUDENTS OR RECENT GRADUATES LOOKING TO BUILD THEIR PORTFOLIO" or looking for "interns" meaning "You work for free"... drives me nuts...
Being a musician has always been a dicey proposition. Even more so today where the "costs" of equipment are so low any number of people can market themselves as musicians. I honestly feel bad for the guys and gals who are actually good at what they do and try to pay the bills with live performances.
That said, the whole "play free for exposure" (this scenario) or the even more infamous "pay to play" (think, Los Angeles, or more generally where a promotor will book an unknown band with a known band but only if unknown band sells X tickets on their own or pays the difference) has been around for a while.
The CL response is clever, but business is business. If you don't bring a calculable $$ value to the table, a business person isn't really being paid to worry about your "true" aesthetic value. It stinks, but I can't really blame a business person for setting an unknown or unknowable value at near zero.
people try this shit with photographers too. One couple asked for a photographer to come and shoot their wedding for free because they have tons of followers on social media and it would be good exposure for them so they shouldn't worry about getting paid for the gig.
To be fair, people are willing to pay for food.