News Colorado: Court Rules Baker Can’t Refuse to Make Wedding Cake for Gay Couple

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    A Colorado appeals court ruled Thursday that a Denver-area baker cannot refuse to make a wedding cake for a gay couple based on his religious belief.

    The decision comes as religious conservatives opposed to gay marriage fight to carve out exemptions to same-sex marriage and antidiscrimination laws—especially in the wake of the U.S. Supreme Court ruling earlier this year legalizing same-sex marriage nationwide.

    The Colorado Court of Appeals rejected the argument by lawyers for the cake-shop owner who argued that forcing him to create and sell a cake to a gay couple planning a wedding celebration violated his First Amendment rights.

    The ruling is the latest to limit the rights of religious business owners involved in wedding services to turn away same-sex couples.

    “There’s a growing body of court decisions saying that while religion is central to what makes America America, religion can’t be used as an excuse to discriminate,” said James Esseks, the director of the American Civil Liberties Union LGBT project. The ACLU represented the couple in the case.

    Religious conservatives said the ruling was a mistake. Lawyers for the bakery said they would consider appealing.

    “Government has a duty to protect people’s freedom to follow their beliefs personally and professionally rather than force them to adopt the government’s views,” said Jeremy Tedesco, senior counsel for Alliance Defending Freedom, who argued the Colorado case.

    The dispute started in 2012, when Charlie Craig and David Mullins visited Masterpiece Cakeshop in Lakewood and requested a cake to celebrate their planned wedding. The couple had plans to marry in Massachusetts but wanted to celebrate with their friends in Colorado, which at the time didn’t permit same-sex marriages.

    Masterpiece owner Jack Phillips declined the couple’s request, telling them he didn’t create wedding cakes for same-sex weddings because of his religious beliefs, according to the opinion, which said he advised the two men that he would be happy to sell them other baked goods.

    “Phillips believes that decorating cakes is a form of art, that he can honor God through his artistic talents, and that he would displease God by creating cakes for same-sex marriages,” the opinion said.

    The couple then filed a complaint with the Colorado Civil Rights Commission, alleging discrimination based on sexual orientation under the Colorado Anti-Discrimination Act. After a commission judge ruled for the couple—a decision affirmed by the commission itself—Mr. Phillips took his case to the appellate court.

    “Masterpiece does not convey a message supporting same-sex marriages merely by abiding by the law and serving its customers equally,” the court said in its ruling Thursday.

    Religious conservatives opposed to gay marriage have tried to soften their rhetoric about homosexuality and their approach to the LGBT community, while maintaining their opposition to same-sex marriage.

    Some church leaders fear the Supreme Court ruling could result in discrimination against religious people, and have said they would continue to fight for exemptions for business owners and religiously affiliated organizations.

    “What happens next is that states should respond with appropriate legislation that would prevent the government from penalizing or coercing anyone because they act on the belief that marriage is a union between one man and one woman,” said Roger Severino, the director of the DeVos Center for Religion and Civil Society at the Heritage Foundation, a conservative think tank.

    But civil-liberties groups say continuing legal fights aren’t indicative of a larger cultural battle.

    “There’s a small number of conflicts and the courts are resolving them the same way every time,” the ACLU’s Mr. Esseks said.

    Gay couples have won similar cases in other states. In 2013, the highest court in New Mexico ruled that the owners of an Albuquerque wedding-photography company can’t deny services to same-sex couples.

    Earlier this summer, the Oregon labor commissioner ordered the owners of “Sweetcakes by Melissa” bakery to pay a lesbian couple $135,000 in damages “for emotional and mental suffering resulting from” its refusal to bake them a wedding cake.

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    Why the hell would you eat something that someone was forced to bake for you? Jack Phillips will be dipping his junk in that batter for 24 hours straight.


    Orrrrrrr..... maybe that's what they want? :bigthink
     
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    does that mean walmart will have to make these...

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    or is this one of those special privilege scenarios?
     
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    The baker should lighten up and let his creative juices flow.
    It's just a cake.

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    Our country is fucked.
     
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    I struggle with this one, I don't think the photographers should be made to attend and document a wedding---honestly, why would you want someone who thinks you are a piece of shit, taking photos at your wedding? baking a cake, doesn't raise to that level though.

    But I guess if you let them opt out of gay marriages, then they can opt out of black, interracial, Jewish, etc.
     
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    all he has to do is make an anti-gay cake or make a cake that is flavored with ipecac and they will never bother him again.

    either these bakers are among the dumbest christians in the world, or they have an ulterior motive in refusing.
     
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    I think it's the opposite, I think the gay people purposely go to these establishments in order to get refused, so they can file claims.
     
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    Feeding someone a cake does not mean you agree with their lifestyle. Jesus said to feed the poor, right? I don't recall him saying to check and see if they were Gay or not. Just make them the cake and shut the fuck up.
     
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    The owner of the deli I worked at in college school used to slap his dick all over a sub if the person called and just asked "how much longer for the delivery". I can't imagine all the fun stuff you could do with cake batter and frosting.
     
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    Won't be long until these symbols are subject to punishment. Thanks, ADL.

    :sheik:

    :gayflag:
     
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    God bakes for fags
     
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    i'm always shocked when a man who's involved in the wedding business(cake dude) is anti-gay

    because it's fucking queer for dude's to be into weddings in any serious way
     
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    Gays can buy any cake they want. They aren't being denyed the all important cake. It's making a custom made dick in the ass cake that some might find offensive. Ya dig, dawg?

    I'm not sure who is killing their own cause faster, gays or the BLM losers. It's a tight race. :ufro:
     
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    but if you object so much that you are willing to go to court over it, just make a bad cake. make the cake out of crushed garlic and marinara sauce with sugar glaze.
     
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    Then they will end up on judge Judy :jj:
     
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    No kidding. Most bakers are trying to get by sell as much as they can, get their name out there. I think you are right, there is more to this.
     
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    No way that dude had the dick in the ass mold. That's a huge expense.
     
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    Back in my day, we'd just go to a different baker.