Politics Cruz and Kasich announce unprecedented partnership to stop Trump nomination

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  1. MutteringJohn

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    PROVIDENCE, R.I. (AP) — In an extraordinary move, Donald Trump's Republican rivals late Sunday announced plans to coordinate primary strategies in upcoming states to deprive the GOP front-runner of the delegates needed to win the Republican nomination.

    Ted Cruz and John Kasich issued near-simultaneous statements outlining an agreement that may be unprecedented in modern American politics. The Kasich campaign will give Cruz "a clear path in Indiana." In return, the Cruz campaign will "clear the path" for Kasich in Oregon and New Mexico.

    The arrangement does not address the five Northeastern states set to vote on Tuesday, where Trump is expected to add to his already overwhelming delegate lead. Kasich and Cruz had already retreated to Indiana, which holds its primary on May 3. Yet the shift offers increasingly desperate Trump foes a glimmer of hope in their long and frustrating fight to halt the former reality television star's unlikely rise.

    "Having Donald Trump at the top of the ticket in November would be a sure disaster for Republicans," Cruz's campaign manager, Jeff Roe, said in a statement explaining the new plans. "Not only would Trump get blown out by Clinton or Sanders, but having him as our nominee would set the party back a generation."

    Added Kasich's chief strategist, John Weaver, "Our goal is to have an open convention in Cleveland, where we are confident a candidate capable of uniting the party and winning in November will emerge as the nominee."

    The announcement marks a sharp reversal for Cruz's team, which aggressively opposed coordinating anti-Trump efforts with Kasich as recently as late last week. And it only applies to Indiana, Oregon and New Mexico — three of the 15 states remaining on the Republican primary calendar.

    Yet the development underscores a bleak reality for the billionaire businessman's Republican foes: Time is running out to stop him.

    Trump responded on Twitter shortly before midnight: "Wow, just announced that Lyin' Ted and Kasich are going to collude in order to keep me from getting the Republican nomination. DESPERATION!"

    The announcement came less than 48 hours before voting begins across five Northeastern states where the New York billionaire leads in many polls. Trump campaigned Sunday in Maryland, which will vote on Tuesday along with Rhode Island, Connecticut, Pennsylvania and Delaware.

    Speaking to several thousand people in an airplane hangar in Hagerstown, Maryland, Sunday evening, Trump stressed repeatedly that he expects to win the 1,237 delegates needed in the first round of voting to stave off a contested convention.

    "I only care about the first. We're not going for the second and third and fourth and fifth," said Trump.

    As Kasich backs out of Indiana, Cruz promised to not compete in primary contests in Oregon on May 17 and New Mexico on June 7.

    "We will focus our time and resources in New Mexico and Oregon, both areas that are structurally similar to the Northeast politically, where Gov. Kasich is performing well," Weaver said.

    As recently as three days ago Kasich's campaign announced investments in Indiana, including the opening of two offices and the creation of a campaign leadership team. His campaign on Sunday night canceled a town hall and gathering in Indianapolis scheduled to watch the results of Tuesday's primaries.

    Like Cruz's campaign, Kasich's campaign encouraged allied super PACs and other outside groups to "honor the commitments."

    In recent weeks, Trump has repeatedly denounced the GOP's presidential nominating system as "rigged." That criticism is likely to intensify in the coming days.

    There was far less drama on the Democratic side Sunday.

    Underdog Bernie Sanders rallied thousands of voters in two New England states, seeking momentum even as he offered mixed signals on how hard he would push his differences with front-runner Hillary Clinton.

    The Vermont senator largely steered clear of Clinton at a Rhode Island park, but hours later ramped up his critique before more than 14,000 supporters in New Haven, Connecticut. Sanders reiterated his call for Clinton to release transcripts of lucrative Wall Street speeches she delivered after leaving the State Department in early 2013.

    "This campaign, unlike Secretary Clinton's, has not raised $15 million from Wall Street and millions more from other special interests," he said as the crowd booed at the mention of Clinton's name.

    Clinton eyed victories in four or five of Tuesday's contests, which would all but cripple Sanders' White House bid.

    The former secretary of state went to two Philadelphia church services attended largely by African-Americans ahead of the primary in Pennsylvania, Tuesday's top delegate prize. She declined to attack her Democratic rival by name in the morning appearance and a subsequent stop in Bridgeport, Connecticut, focusing on the GOP candidates.

    Democratic National Committee Chair Debbie Wasserman Schultz downplayed tensions between Sanders and Clinton, whose rivalry has become increasingly nasty in recent weeks.

    "Regardless of the intensity of what's played out here ... we are going to be unified," she declared.
     
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    Good luck

    hahahahahhaha
     
  3. SuperFarts

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    The plot thickens...

    Trump is gonna make a kajillion more dollars from the book and movie rights alone.
     
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    Desperate douchebags
     
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    The wall just got another two feet higher and the shit two feet deeper.

    guess which guy is Trump..........
     
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    Trump will run as a third party candidate. Making sure the republicans lose if he's not the nominee. What a bunch of dumb asses.
     
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    They're willing to cede the election to Hilary, protecting the status quo is more important than controlling the white house.

    Is there a possibility that if Trump runs third party, that no candidate gets the required # of electoral votes? Which means the GOP controlled house will elect...Cruz or Kasich?
     
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    Trump would run as a third party candidate if he loses the nomination no matter what.

    Candidates cut deals with each other to garner necessary support all the time. You'd think a "deal maker" like the Donald would understand and respect that.
     
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  9. Hugh Blowmont

    Hugh Blowmont Just be funny

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    Unless the Ds take the Congress. But your point is correct, they will give up the WH to protect their own nests, disgusting.
     
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    i wouldn't vote for either of this assholes. two douce bags who could care less about what the voters think or want.

    die scum die!
     
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    If I read that correctly, those two are admitting to fixing the primaries. "You stay out of my way in Indiana and I'll do the same for you in Oregon and New Mexico." Talk about fraud! Like two boxers in a title fight... "You let me win the first 2 rounds and Ill let you win the next 2."
     
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    you would hope the voters in Indiana, Oregon, and New Mexico don't like the idea that they're being used in some giant game designed to keep the same sad sack of losers in power and that they vote accordingly

    Trump 2016
     
  13. Getthepoisonout

    Getthepoisonout I regret my username

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    Sounds desperate.
     
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    Who the fuck makes up their mind on who to vote for based on a candidate's last minute stop in their state just before the primaries?
     
  15. Boomer

    Boomer Who is your daddy and what does he do?

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    Your sex life?
     
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    That's somewhat correct... in the general election most states award all of their electoral votes to the candidate with a simple majority. (Maine is one exception I know of)

    For example in 2000 in Florida, Bush won with only 48.85% of the vote. Gore had 48.84% and others around 2%... yet all of the electoral votes went to Bush.

    It's doubtful that the 3rd party candidate would have enough to win an entire state. (Assuming One D and 2 R's splitting). For example, a typical state may go 40% Hillary, 30% Trump, 30% Cruz. Hillary Wins the state. That's why they are terrified of an independent run.

    Look at what you would think is a typical red state like Georgia.... Obama got 45% of the vote there. So if Hillary gets 45% of the vote and Trump and Cruz/Kasich split the 55% it doesn't matter - she wins the state.

    So even if Cruz wins Texas away from Trump, it doesn't matter because it would have been red anyway. They will just end up splitting the red states between themselves.

    What happens if no presidential candidate gets 270 Electoral votes?

    If no candidate receives a majority of Electoral votes, the House of Representatives elects the President from the 3 Presidential candidates who received the most Electoral votes. Each state delegation has one vote. The Senate would elect the Vice President from the 2 Vice Presidential candidates with the most Electoral votes. Each Senator would cast one vote for Vice President. If the House of Representatives fails to elect a President by Inauguration Day, the Vice-President Elect serves as acting President until the deadlock is resolved in the House.

    Note that bolded line.... each delegation gets one vote - not one per House member. Obama won 26 states against Romney. Crazy stuff.
     
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    2 of the biggest pussy out there. Fuck the both of them. Kasich the only guy who can beat Hillary yet only won one state lol
     
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    Trump will have some fun today with Obama sending troops to Syria [250] Obama please let us know date and time there leaving so they know in Syria.
     
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    YodaQuiversStern Turn and face the strange

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    Don't like this move by Kasich. Worried it will hurt him. Obviously, he will be Cruz's VP pick, should Cruz get the GOP nomination.
     
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    YodaQuiversStern Turn and face the strange

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    Kasich would take Ohio and since we pretty much always decide elections, then yes, he would beat Hilliary.