Cryonics, Bullshit scam or Real Science?

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  1. chapped

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    Interesting story..... will science ever pull this off?

    Will Howard op to try this?

    Will his wig make the journey with him?





    Cancer claimed Kim Suozzi at age 23, but she chose to have her brain preserved with the dream that neuroscience might one day revive her mind.
    By AMY HARMON
    SEPTEMBER 12, 2015

    In the moments just before Kim Suozzi died of cancer at age 23, it fell to her boyfriend, Josh Schisler, to follow through with the plan to freeze her brain.

    As her pulse monitor sounded its alarm and her breath grew ragged, he fumbled for his phone. Fighting the emotion that threatened to paralyze him, he alerted the cryonics team waiting nearby and called the hospice nurses to come pronounce her dead. Any delay would jeopardize the chance to maybe, someday, resurrect her mind.

    It was impossible to know on that cloudless Arizona morning in January 2013 which fragments of Kim’s identity might survive, if any. Would she remember their first, fumbling kiss in his dorm room five years earlier? Their private jokes and dumb arguments? Theseizure, the surgery, the fancy neuroscience fellowship she had to turn down?

    More than memories, Josh, then 24, wished for the crude procedure to salvage whatever synapses gave rise to her dry, generous humor, compelled her to greet every cat she saw with a high-pitched “helllooo,” and inspired her to write him poems.

    They knew how strange it sounded, the hope that Kim’s brain could be preserved in subzero storage so that decades or centuries from now, if science advanced, her billions of interconnected neurons could be scanned, analyzed and converted into computer code that mimicked how they once worked.

    But Kim’s terminal prognosis came at the start of a global push to understand the brain. And some of the tools and techniques emerging from neuroscience laboratories were beginning to bear some resemblance to those long envisioned in futurist fantasies.
     
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    Since the brain is organic and made up of chemicals which store info and memories, it's highly unlikely that it would survive 100 years of freezing to be returned in any shape to restore consciousness.
     
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    Cancer at 23! That sucks! I'm rooting for the brain!!:cheer2:
     
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    If Double L wasn't immortal, he would be frozen before he died.
     
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    I got a 24 hour bodyguard with me.

    If and when I croak, they have instructions to freeze my penis and save it for posterity.

    It's not me calling the shots, it's the womenz. they see the value to mankind that my unit brings to the masses.

    It is an heirloom piece and an hall of fame worthy trophy.
     
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    The founder of Sirius XM satellite radio, Martine Rothblatt now heads up a drug company that makes life-saving medicines for rare diseases (including one drug that saved her own daughter's life). Meanwhile she is working to preserve the consciousness of the woman she loves in a digital file ... and a companion robot. In an onstage conversation with TED's Chris Anderson, Rothblatt shares her powerful story of love, identity, creativity, and limitless possibility.

     
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    Your brain is going to decompose anyway. Doesn't hurt to try.
     
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    Mine already fits in an ice cube tray
     
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    Do not put the candle back
     
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    I saw that movie. It was all trickery and effects. I don't believe it.
     
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    I saw a doc on this a few years ago. The problem is the ice crystals that form and literally tear the brain tissue and individual cells apart.

    The cryonics people claim that future medicine will perfect nano surgery that will repair all of the cellular damage that will occur.

    Sure it will... :rolleyes:

    I guess it's worth a try. What has she got to lose? :dontknow:

    Poor kid... :depressed:

    Ted Williams' head is also cryogenically frozen as well at Alcor in Scottsdale
     
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    So who pays the storage fees for the brain for the next 100 or 1000 years?
     
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    Huge scam to seperate desperate wealthy people from their money.
     
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    Isn't the body, including the brain, a lot of water? When you freeze water it forms crystals. Wouldn't that fuck up the rest of the tissue?
     
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    Abby someone
     
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    Won't work without nanotechnology. And then maybe not. Any connections frozen may be too delicate not matter what the medium of freezing is used. They are still studying the brain-so much to learn. Are memories and functions preserved in the organic brain like they are on a disk/drive? If so, are they ever salvageable? Who knows the type and extent of degradation in the brain when death starts? Maybe they wither immediately. In any event, I suspect major damage with so many cells and synapses.
     
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    Bingo!
     
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    People who drown in icy water can be revived hours later. I saw on tv once that heart attack victims who are kept cold in the ambulance have a better chance of surviving.

    For long term cases like this I'm voting bullshit, due to the ice crystallization thing.