D Day

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  1. Anonymous007

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    What are the odds in this PC world that that number includes Axis KIA?
     
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    SouthernListen I don't follow the crowd. Sorry about that. VIP

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    The hero of the battle on Omaha Beach. Almost nobody knows his name. General Norman Cota. He personally led men through gaps in the defenses and carried a carbine. Anyone who has served in the US Rangers would probably know about him. "Rangers lead the way" was taken from his words on the beach.
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    http://www.newenglandhistoricalsociety.com/norman-cota-overlooked-hero-d-day-next-day/

    Cota asked the captain in command why his men weren’t trying to take the house.

    "Sir, the Germans are in there, shooting at us," the captain said.

    "Well, I'll tell you what, captain," said Cota, unbuckling two grenades from his jacket. "You and your men start shooting at them. I'll take a squad of men and you and your men watch carefully. I'll show you how to take a house with Germans in it."


    Cota led his squad around a hedge to get as close as possible to the house. Suddenly, he gave a whoop and raced forward, the squad following, yelling like wild men. As they tossed grenades into the windows, Cota and another man kicked in the front door, tossed a couple of grenades inside, waited for the explosions, then dashed into the house. The surviving Germans inside were streaming out the back door, running for their lives.

    Cota returned to the captain. "You've seen how to take a house," said the general, still out of breath. "Do you understand? Do you know how to do it now?"

    "Yes, sir.”

    "Well, I won't be around to do it for you again," Cota said. "I can't do it for everybody."


    Guy was in his 50's.
     
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    I never knew what the 'D' stood for, so I asked a WWII veteran when I was young. He told me that it was the designation for the time of the attack. H hour, D day. A lot of those guys were pretty much kids when they stormed that beach. Fuck Hitler.
     
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    My dad stormed the beach at Iwo Jima. He was a machine gunner. He got wounded and the two guys with him were killed by a grenade. All my life growing up, he never talked about it, at least not until just a few years ago when he was in his late 80s. He told me the life expectancy of a machine gunner in battle was about 25 seconds. That was because they were who the enemy needed to take out first. My final conversation to him was on the phone last year for Father's Day. For whatever reason, he really opened up about his life in the service during the conversation and I learned a lot about the stuff he went through. Not just the horror of war stories, but the funny light-hearted shit that happened during basic training. He passed away unexpectedly a week afterwards.
     
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    MyLazyHand Russia and France Know What to Do

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    For the sake of perspective, more Americans died on D-Day alone than died in Iraq and Afghanistan combined over the last decade.
     
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    Your dad is my hero!! What a great man!
     
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    Who won WW2? Japan. They lost the 'battle' that was WW2, but it looks like they won the war. Population of approximately 70 million in 1940, they lost approximately 3 million (military and civilian), that's about 5% of their population. After the war, MacArthur was in charge of the rebuilding and organization of Japan, and American occupation forces were subject to harsh punishment if they were caught mistreating the japs. Which was rare anyway because everyone was tired of war and wanted to move on. The atomic bombs dropped on Japan can be looked at as the final payment Japan made to join the international economy. Since WW2, Japan has maintained near 95% homogeneity, which lends itself to high social trust, etc. Meanwhile, the west, led by the US, paid for the rebuilding of Japan and allowed it to maintain most of it's traditions. At the same time, America has seen lowering social trust due in large part to an increasingly 'diverse' population, PC thought police, subversive cultmarx agenda and destruction of the family tied to big government social programs. This is just a general overview meant to fit into a comment thread mind you. When you look at the percentage of all white lives lost in WW2 in exchange for forced diversity and the slow destruction of America specifically, it's difficult to say that America won the war. My grandfather fought the japs and only spoke about it when his curious grandson, A. Genius, ignorantly inquired about his involvement in the war. I now await the 'racist' comments about how misinformed I am. End rant.
     
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    Good point on the "social trust" concept. A lot of socialist leaning people do not understand how the systems they rave about in Europe cannot exist in "diverse" nations where this trust is lacking. They are already starting to fall apart due to the influx of immigrants.

    From Pew Research:

    An International Perspective
    The question of what explains social trust – and why certain societies are more trusting than others – has long fascinated social scientists. Many theories have been advanced – personal optimism; voluntary associations; homogeneous societies; equal opportunities; honest governments – but over the years, not all have stood up to empirical scrutiny. Cross-national surveys have found that the highest levels of social trust are in the homogeneous, egalitarian, well-to-do countries of Scandinavia, while the lowest levels of trust tend to be found in South America, Africa and parts of Asia. In these multi-national comparative surveys, the U.S. population ranks in the upper middle range of trust.3
     
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    Ya, but all the stuff you mention occurred AFTER the Instrument of Surrender. "The Japanese Instrument of Surrender was the written agreement that formalized the surrender of the Empire of Japan, marking the end of World War II."

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Instrument_of_Surrender
     
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    Treating enemies well is a long used strategy. Alexander, the Romans, they all used it at times. But only after they beat the shit out of their enemies and taught them a lesson. Germany and Japan are meek as mice today.

    Half measure wars of recent years pretty much prove that they are costiler in lives in the long run than even fire bombing cities. Cruel to be Kind.
     
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    I think Yogi Berra was there. [catcher yankees ]
     
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    James Doohan from Star Trek lost a finger there.
     
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    I appreciate your post. I am aware of all these things but my replies would be endlessly long if I tried to educate everyone. I'm glad you know this stuff too, for it gives me hope that all is not lost. The libs try to frame it as 'racism' (their word, not mine) when it's really only race realism. Realism that, when accepted, creates a better world for all races. The liberal/cultmarx crowd says that race is a social construct, but just by looking at the world, the obvious fact is that society is a racial construct.
     
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    All gave some, some gave all.
     
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    My uncle-in-law was one of the two medics in the 2nd Rangers Bttn that day who landed at Pointe du Hoc. Cota later took over the 28th division where my father in law served as a rifleman at St Lo, the Hurtgen Forest, Battle of the Bulge etc.
     
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    And 90% of the morons in this country couldn't tell you what century WW2 was in. Those guys died for nothing imho.
     
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    What's interesting about Saving Private Ryan is how realistic the vets say it was, but also how some of the bunkers, like the scene above, don't seem to have existed there. I read a couple of books detailing the defenses there and can't find one like that along that stretch.
    There is a pretty new book out on that mission. I'd get it if I hadn't already read so much on it. Maybe he's mentioned in it.
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