Did Stern and the Daily News prompt the end for The Interview?

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  1. Bs100

    Bs100 Well-Known Member

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    I haven't seen these linked by anyone yet...

    Stern gets ridiculed by a major New York Newspaper for having the gall to compare the Sony Hack to 9-11, then by a crazy coincidence, within hours, the hackers decide to send out a new message threatening violence at the movie theaters and bringing up 9-11 in warning of these new attacks. The timing is super suspicious.

    If you are thinking about the course of events through North Korea's eyes.... This hack job is their biggest accomplishment in a loooooong while. They have finally found a way to have revenge on the US. I am sure the countries leaders are reading all the press this accomplishment has brought. But then there is a major newspaper that goes against the grain and claims the hack job is minor- and says it pales to comparison in what middle eastern terrorists were able to do with 911. This was undoubtedly read by North Korea- and probably came across as insulting. North Korea doesn't want to be a mere annoyance, they want to strike fears in the heart of anyone thinking of mocking north korea.

    So they read the Daily news and think- wow, we need to up the ante.... this isn't just some stunt. The message is to not cross North Korea..... So they make it clear to point out that violence is coming- and use 9-11 in the threat. North Korea WANTS to be viewed as Al Quida-like terrorists capable of big harm, just like Stern was suggesting. And it was this threat that A) made it clear NK was behind the hack, and 2) got the movie dumped because people finally got scared when they saw a potential 9-11 threat.

    In a way- Howard Stern was the catalyst to the last 24 hours of North Korea Shenanigans. He lit a path for the North Koreans to follow in order to arrive at their goal. I guess Howard Stern is still more relevant than any of us would have guessed!
     
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  2. JessOnCrack

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    I wouldn't feel comfortable saying any impending terrorist act has anything to do with Howard. Also, the pulled the movie from theatres so there's no need for any more terror to happen
     
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    I like how terrorist take credit for an Israeli attack
     
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    The next leap for the wigged delusional fraud will be that terrorists have threatened him. He is such a big powerful media presence after all.
     
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    If the terrorists threatened him, Ronnie would be there to protect him.:haha:
     
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    The only link between Howie and North Korea is that his wife looks like a fucking Asian whore these days.
     
  7. John Coktoaston

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    the terrorists (or north Koreans) would never get past "phantom security"
     
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    Dreamking The dogs of doom are howlin' low...

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    I'm still skeptical about this whole thing.

    Sony, as a corporation, has to be able to command more technical resources than North Korea. It's fucking SONY for chrissakes.

    So North Korea, who can't even feed it's people or deliver electricity to 75% of it's populace is suddenly so skilled in cyber-attacks it takes down one of the most powerful corporations in the world??

    And Sony is suddenly so incompetent about cyber-security they leave open holes to their products distributed by Internet?

    And what about "Team America"?? If there was anything that made fun of Supreme Leader, it was that movie. Not of peep out of Korea.
     
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    Dreamking The dogs of doom are howlin' low...

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    I remember seeing Ronnie in action when Stuttering John and A.J. Benza got into that fight. I was amazed at how professional Ronnie was. And that was pre-Sirius.

    But I think Ronnie's personality has changed since Howard made him famous. The main reason Howard keeps him around is Ronnie's undying loyalty to him.

    He would, literally, take a bullet for Howard. And if there's ever a tell-all book, it ain't gonna come from Ronnie.
     
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    The only reason that the Koreans would know what Stern said was that he had Rogen and Franco on that day and the Koreans are monitoring what those two guys do and say.

    Howard is just a coincidence in this whole thing.

    Lest you think that the Koreans give 2 shits about Howard and his pathetic radio show?
     
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    I think the link to North Korea is tenuous as well. No military member or government official has said this is North Korea and the timing stinks.

    Sony itself has said it thinks this was internal. They laid off a ton of IT people who would have the means (superb, unrivaled access to Sony computer networks),
    motive (they were just fired) and opportunity (they were unemployed after all, plenty of time on their hands).

    At the most, Koreans might have done it with financial backing from North Korea. Or it could just be 10 White men with axes to grind.
     
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    I also heard that after Sony let go of many of its IT people, Indian IT firms were hired to do the needful :bully:
     
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    No- only after the hackers threat on theaters did US Officials DID make the confirmation that the hackers were north koreans
    http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/world/2014/12/17/north-korea-sony-hack/20558135/

    My point is that North Koreans were monitoring US news and saw the daily news mocking the thought that this was a serious terrorist activity. North Korea wants to be taken seriously- also, the North Korean's were probably peeved that Sony and others thought maybe disgruntled IT employees could do this. The threat after the daily news article made it clear- the hack job was done to harm sony for The Interview- and mocking their leaders death on screen
     
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    Without Howard Stern calling the hack a serious 9-11 terrorist activity- the daily news article does not get written. Without the Daily news article mocking the idea that the hack was a serious terrorist threat- the North Koreans don't make the ADDITIONAL threat on theaters showing the movie on the 25th and compare the violence to 9-11.

    That is the causal chain...
     
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    North Korea has been hacking for years now- we dont pay much attention because they mostly focus on south korea. Here is an article about it- there are several more explaining how the gov finds their best math students and puts them into hacking training
    http://www.wbaltv.com/national/defector-n-korea-runs-a-vast-hacker-network/30292222

    Think about it- these communist countries- especially a closed society like North Korea can cherry pick the brightest minds out of their 25 million people and force them into focusing on hacking 16 hours a day- send them to training as teens with their sole priority in learning code and finding ways to break into networks. North Korean likely pays them near nothing to do this- just giving them a bed and a regular diet would give them much more comfort than the average North Korean citizen.

    On the other hand- a corp like sony would pay for every hour a cyber security person works on their network- and every dollar is lost money because cyber security isnt going to grow any money like paying a writer, or actor, or producer. That is a sunk cost- it makes complete sense that a communist nation can do more than a huge corp in computer hacking/comp security.
     
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  17. Dreamking

    Dreamking The dogs of doom are howlin' low...

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    I gotta read the article. But perhaps it makes sense. The government isn't blowing their dough on the people.

    They have a substantial military which doesn't come out of thin air.. But forget Sony for a minute; what's the response from the multi-national corporate community?

    They don't like their bottom lines fucked with and they have to money to fuck back with you.
     
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    Well that article makes mention of the military- it is cheaper to have a hacking army than a real one. All you need is a computer and a ton of man hours to waste looking for holes/weaknesses in code.

    And I think we can see what the multi-national corporate response- Don't poke the bear. Sony is going to bury The Interview- and corporations are going to leave tyranical dictators alone and not send any judgment their way. The corporations worry about profit. You are not making profit by provoking crazy people. And this is somewhat troubling because EVERY large news organization (fox, msnbc, time-warner) are part of LARGE corporations where they sell more than just news/entertainment.... so what if North Korea threatens all these corps if they get any negative press.

    All of a sudden we have mild/ non-judgmental articles about north korea. NK wins.... game set match.
     
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    BS:

    All true. But this assumes that the bear does not continue to poke the corporations.
     
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    Dreamking The dogs of doom are howlin' low...

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    BS:

    Just came across this.

    http://www.wsj.com/articles/sony-hack-shines-light-on-north-koreas-cyber-attackers-1418877740

    Thanks for the head's up, dude.

    DK