Entertainment Did you know Susan Sarandon wants to make porn?

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  1. Shithead

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    Porn directors say Susan Sarandon doesn’t know a thing about today’s erotica
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    Who is Susan Sarandon to tell women what good porn is...say the makers of porn for women.
    (Joel Ryan/AP)

    Gersh Kuntzman

    NEW YORK DAILY NEWS
    Sunday, May 29, 2016, 4:00 AM
    The porn world has a dirty response to Susan Sarandon: F--- off!
    The 69-year-old star made headlines last week when she said she wants to direct female-friendly pornography after she retires from acting — seamlessly moving from Hollywood to the Valley, if you will. Sarandon said she’s motivated because “most” pornography “doesn’t look pleasurable from a female point of view.”
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    There is plenty of the "female friendly" erotic moments in today's pornography, its makers say, countering Susan Sarandon's comments that all porn is "brutal." Here's a still from Maria Beatty's "The Black Widow."
    (Courtesy Bleu Productions)
    Full disclosure (he says to his girlfriend), I’m not a big porn consumer. But something about Sarandon’s condescending comments made me want to reach out to every female porn director I could get my hands on (poor word choice) for some straight (again, not exactly the right word) shooting (oy) about whether on-camera sex had gone soft (boy, this is hard, er, difficult to write) in the Internet age.
    Turns out, turn ons are everywhere. And Sarandon is not watching the right kind of porn.
    “When I heard what she said, my entire body did an eye-roll,” said Joanna Angel, who makes hardcore pornography and distributes it at BurningAngel.com.
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    Female empowerment: Women porn directors Bree Mills (left with actress Jessa Rhodes) and Jennifer Angel.

    “I mean, if you want to make a porn, great, Susan, make a porn,” Angel continued. “But why did she have to come from the ‘Everything is awful and I’m going to make it cool’ position. It’s arrogant and uneducated. It’s like me going to a doctor’s office and saying, ‘I could run this better.’”
    After talking with Angel, I took a deep dive into the world of female-made pornography. I spoke to Bree Mills, whose all-female studio Girlsway churns out mini-series like “The Turning,” which winkingly hints at a coming lesbian apocalypse. I chatted with Maria Beatty, whose Bleu Productions makes lavish feature-length art films that are more like porn poems than the stuff Sarandon is talking about. And I talked to Shine Louise Houston, whose “Superfreak” won “best dyke sex scene” at the Feminist Porn Awards in 2007. If that’s not credibility for female-friendly pornography, I don’t know what is.
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    Hard at work: Bree Mills directing the actresses Adriana Chechik and Mercedes Carrera for the Girlsway feature "The Turning" (left) and Shine Louise Houston her set.

    Truth be told, their artistic endeavors are not for me (I assure you, honey, I’m not just saying that!). I’m a guy, so 30 minutes of two women talking about thinking about discussing what they’d like to do to each other at some point isn’t going to hold my, er, interest. That said, I wouldn’t condemn an entire industry like Sarandon did.
    “When she talks about porn, it sounds like she was talking about some of the industry, which churns out fast food sex, the clips you can watch for two or three minutes,” Beatty said. “That’s the attention span of a lot of men. But women love the whole idea of foreplay and contemplation the intensity of touch. And arousal and stimulation. That’s the key for a lot of women. That’s what brings them to orgasm.”
    I told her I’d try to remember that. But, you know, well, I’m ultimately just a man.
    Still, I had to give Beatty a lot of credit for maintaining her vision. Her movie “The Black Widow” spends the first 40 minutes in a graveyard as a recently widowed woman mourns a lost lover. In flashbacks, we see lots of shoe licking, fan dancing, spanking (with and without crosses), hot wax, riding crops and bondage, but an Adrian Lyne movie has more sex. The widow finally hooks up with another gal about 40 minutes into the movie — but the climactic sex scene involves only kissing and the hint that the women will soon meet off-camera for some private time.
    This kind of thing isn’t really porn, but “erotica,” which is the word I use when the pornography is more prude than nude (or more fake id than naked).

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    Maria Beatty’s "The Black Widow,” features this kind of action (including, right, a woman smoking opium with a snake).

    Mills of Girlsway said she likes to “focus on story and set-up and the psychology of sex,” which, judging from my exhaustive review of her site, seems to be a Harvard way of saying, “We talk a lot before we get to the scene with endless kissing before the two women have incredible sex on a leather couch.”
    “The arc of our episode does lead to a sexual encounter, but the amount of time on the build-up and the women reacting to each other is the majority of what we do,” Mills said. “If Susan Sarandon wants to educate herself, I’d give her lifetime membership to Girlsway.”
    Of course, even in the female porn world, there are differences of opinion to the age old question, “What does a woman want?”
    Angel says women want the “dirty stuff.” And she should know. Her work is (and I say this with all due respect) really, really raunchy, though it does have a sense of humor. In one film, a lesbian woman tells her fiancee that she feels like she should have sex with a man just once before they marry. The man she picks? A weird sleepwalking guy in kids pajamas playing the ukulele. Of course, he wakes up and the ensuing sex scene would give the Pope a heart attack all the way across the ocean.
    “I make a lot of different porn: some with plots and set ups, but many women tell me they want ones with no plot,” Angel continued. “They want it dirty. Men don’t even say that to me as much as women do.”
    Angel is a bit of an outlier. Houston, for example, likes “the narrative that happens inside the sex scene.”
    “The sex is a dialogue between two people and you see them negotiating what they want the other person to do,” Houston told me. “There’s a peak and a climax. Susan Sarandon probably hasn’t seen that kind of action.”
    So even if female porn directors disagree about their art, they all agree on one thing: Susan Sarandon can kiss their ass.
    Totally down to collaborate with @SusanSarandon on a porn script and show her how we do things differently in 2016 https://t.co/OiRnqPR7qU
    — Bree Mills (@TheBreeMills) May 19, 2016
    Hey, wait a second, I think I just gave Bree Mills a really good idea for a movie...
    Sidebar: How to direct pornography
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    Joanna Angel
    (BurningAngel.com )
    By Joanna Angel
    Porn star and directorJoannaAngel heard that Susan Sarandon wanted to direct pornography and she just laughed. But if Sarandon really wants to direct erotica, here’s Angel’s advice.
    “First of all good luck. Directing porn is not easy. It’s hard work. The whole process is difficult. There are times when you have an idea, but you start filming and this idea isn’t working for the particular performers you have so we have to change it. This is an art where the variables are people. Maybe there’s a particular type of sex I want to see, but these particular actors don’t have that kind of sex. Maybe I wanted romance, but the chemistry between these people is rough and dirty.
    “In Hollywood, people are handed a script and actors are trained to be that person. But porn is different. Every porn scene is going to be different. Yes, you can put them in outfits, but people are going to have sex the way they have sex. You can only direct them so much.
    “This is the kind of thing Susan Sarandon hasn’t thought about.”
     
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    Saggy tit porn?
     
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    I'd still fuck her.
     
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    all she knows is 1800's erotica :dontknow:

    isnt she one of the assholes who has promised to move to another country?
     
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    Slut!!!



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    I don't care if she directs porn, as long as she's not in it.
     
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    She had one of the top three sets of tits in the history of cinema.
     
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    She was super hot.
     
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    "Thats haaaaahhhhhht, mmmm yah".



     
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    So, Joanna Angels idea of 'female friendly' porn is a couple of tatted out bull dykes going at it?

    Gross.

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    Oh! Directing porn is SO HARD!

    2 hot chicks and a bed. Start filming. Done.
     
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    I'll fuck her and her piece of ass daughter at the same time
     
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    The only good scenes she has ever done were with Manuel Ferrara which is also the case for 90% of women in porn
     
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    Btw, Susan Sarandon is right. Most porn sucks. Most of these guys have no idea what the fuck they're doing and the meth mouth chicks they fuck lay there like fish.
     
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    Yeah, her daughter's a chip off the old block.
     
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    Yep. I'd go there now just for how she used to look.
     
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