Didn't know the dangers of smoking

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  1. Lemmy

    Lemmy Douchebag Extraordinaire Gold

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    Scumbag lawyers and jury retards......

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    MIAMI -- A Florida jury has slammed the R.J. Reynolds Tobacco Co. with $23.6 billion in punitive damages in a lawsuit filed by the widow of a longtime smoker who died of lung cancer in 1996.

    The case is one of thousands filed in Florida after the state Supreme Court in 2006 tossed out a $145 billion class action verdict. That ruling also said smokers and their families need only prove addiction and that smoking caused their illnesses or deaths.

    Last year, Florida's highest court re-approved that decision, which made it easier for sick smokers or their survivors to pursue lawsuits against tobacco companies without having to prove to the court again that Big Tobacco knowingly sold dangerous products and hid the hazards of cigarette smoking.

    The damages a Pensacola jury awarded Friday to Cynthia Robinson after a four-week trial come in addition to $16.8 million in compensatory damages.

    Robinson individually sued Reynolds, the country's No. 2 cigarette maker, in 2008 on behalf of her late husband, Michael Johnson Sr. Her attorneys said the punitive damages are the largest of any individual case stemming from the original class action lawsuit.

    "The jury wanted to send a statement that tobacco cannot continue to lie to the American people and the American government about the addictiveness of and the deadly chemicals in their cigarettes," said one of the woman's attorneys, Christopher Chestnut.

    Reynolds' vice president and assistant general counsel, Jeffery Raborn, called the damages in Robinson's case "grossly excessive and impermissible under state and constitutional law."

    "This verdict goes far beyond the realm of reasonableness and fairness, and is completely inconsistent with the evidence presented," Raborn said in a statement. "We plan to file post-trial motions with the trial court promptly, and are confident that the court will follow the law and not allow this runaway verdict to stand."

    The lawsuit's goal was to stop tobacco companies from targeting children and young people with their advertising, said Willie Gary, another attorney representing Robinson.

    "If we don't get a dime, that's OK, if we can make a difference and save some lives," Gary said.

    In June, the U.S. Supreme Court turned away cigarette manufacturers' appeals of more than $70 million in court judgments to Florida smokers. Reynolds, Philip Morris USA Inc. and Lorillard Tobacco Co. had wanted the court to review cases in which smokers won large damage awards without having to prove that the companies sold a defective and dangerous product or hid the risks of smoking.

    The Supreme Court refused to hear another of the companies' appeals last year, wanting the court to consider overturning a $2.5 million Tampa jury verdict in the death of a smoker.

    Other Florida juries have hit tobacco companies with tens of millions of dollars in punitive damages in lawsuits stemming from the original class action lawsuit.

    In August, a Fort Lauderdale jury awarded $37.5 million, including $22.5 million in punitive damages against Reynolds, to the family of a smoker who died at age 38 of lung cancer in 1995.

    Attorneys for Reynolds said they would appeal, arguing that the woman knew the dangers of smoking because cigarettes had warning labels when she started. The attorney for the woman's family said teenagers like her were targeted by tobacco companies.

    Some large jury verdicts awarding tens of millions of dollars in damages to relatives of smokers have been upheld by appeals courts.

    In September, the 3rd District Court of Appeals affirmed $25 million in punitive damages and $10 million in compensatory damages against Lorillard, the country's No. 3 cigarette maker, for Dorothy Alexander, whose husband died in 1996 of lung cancer. Lorillard, based in Greensboro, North Carolina, unsuccessfully argued the damages were excessive and raised a number of other claims.

    The 1st District Court of Appeals upheld in June 2013 a $20 million punitive damage award to another smoker's widow, more than a year after reversing a $40.8 million award in the same case against Reynolds. After the appeals court rejected the first award as excessive the award amount was recalculated. The tobacco company still objected.

    Philip Morris is the country's biggest tobacco company and owned by Richmond, Virginia-based Altria Group Inc. Reynolds is owned by Winston-Salem, North Carolina-based Reynolds American Inc.

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  2. harlock

    harlock ancora imparo Gold

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    i quit over a year ago, and i, and every smoker i know absolutely knew that smoking was harmful and did it anyway.
     
  3. Billy Brown

    Billy Brown Thinking big VIP

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    I love the warnings on packs of Canadian cigs.
     
  4. fletchman71

    fletchman71 Well-Known Member

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    Back in the 1800's they called cigarettes 'coffin nails' but only recently have we known that they were bad for you? Fuck all lawyers.
     
  5. Rod-Stroker

    Rod-Stroker Streptococcus Gingivitis Halllllllllllllitosis

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    I enjoyed smoking, the first drag of a stogie in the morning or after a hearty meal.The stink, full ashtrays, fire worries,being socially unacceptable, I quit. I Knew goddammed good and well it was bad for my health.
     
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  6. Lemmy

    Lemmy Douchebag Extraordinaire Gold

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    When I was in my early teens and all of my buddies were smoking everyone knew it wasn't a smart thing to do and was a health risk.

    I'm gonna sue Hostess for those goddamn delicious and addictive HoHos.
     
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  7. BrulesRules

    BrulesRules Just grab 'em in the biscuits VIP

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    Never smoked a cig in my life but if I could get Billions I might just start :idea:
     
  8. Lemmy

    Lemmy Douchebag Extraordinaire Gold

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    I do keep a few smelly cigars in my work bag in case I get a rancid dead body......that's the only thing that seems to work for me. :dontknow:
     
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    Just disgusting. I hope that woman and her piece of shit, bottom feeding lawyer celebrate with a vacation on Malaysian airlines.
     
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  10. Lemmy

    Lemmy Douchebag Extraordinaire Gold

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    That piece of shit Mlaw has me on ignore so she'll never see this thread and be able to argue the merits of the case. :bigcry:
     
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    fuck the merits of the case, i'm not crying for a corporation that sells death and added health care costs for us non-consumers.
     
  12. Rod-Stroker

    Rod-Stroker Streptococcus Gingivitis Halllllllllllllitosis

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    FAIL...
     
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    freds you broke it VIP

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    this quote is hilarious though.

    "The lawsuit's goal was to stop tobacco companies from targeting children and young people with their advertising, said Willie Gary, another attorney representing Robinson.

    "If we don't get a dime, that's OK, if we can make a difference and save some lives," Gary said."
     
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    Cheri Skunk VIP

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    Its like the fat bison that sue McDonald's for being fat. You know up front what you are doing. Take some personal responsibility.
     
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    freds you broke it VIP

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    "fat bison" :jj:

    i will be using that.
     
  16. Lemmy

    Lemmy Douchebag Extraordinaire Gold

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    I'm not crying for them either. Your point is valid for sure. :toptip:
     
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  17. gwartney

    gwartney Unafilliated Gold

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    I wish that every member of that jury would have to spend the next 20 years sitting in the smoking room of a major airport. Talk about a runaway jury.
     
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  18. Psyche

    Psyche Freethinker

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    This^^

    And I'm a smoker. Fuck 'em.
     
  19. zhukov

    zhukov Time traveler Gold

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    sure pal
     
  20. fletchman71

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    They aren't going to get one cent from the tobacco company. This will get overtuned in an appeals court but of course the media will not report on it then.