Discussion in 'The Howard Stern Show' started by bennymuso, May 20, 2016.
Do you believe in God?
no goddammit, I don't.
If there is a god and there is a method to this madness, I'm going to kick it's ass sideways. And then I'm going to be pissed.
Pascal already proved that it's best to believe in God
Yes I do.
I don't believe in fairy tales.
The real gods are
And @Biff Dibiase
Every other is just a false idol .
A false dichotomy is a dichotomy that is not jointly exhaustive (there are other alternatives), or that is not mutually exclusive (the alternatives overlap), or that is possibly neither.
I have a strong faith but I'm not one of these Christians who tells people who don't believe that they're going to hell, etc.
I understand the definition but what's the alternative to the existence or non existence of God?
From your link:
It posits that humans all bet with their lives either that God exists or that he does not. Based on the assumption that the stakes are infinite if God exists and that there is at least a small probability that God in fact exists, Pascal argues that a rational person should live as though God exists and seek to believe in God. If God does not actually exist, such a person will have only a finite loss (some pleasures, luxury, etc.), whereas they stand to receive infinite gains (as represented by eternity in Heaven) and avoid infinite losses (eternity in Hell).
Pascal's Gambit is that you can either believe in the existence of Yahwah Sabaoth, Lord of Armies and live accordingly and presume to go to Heaven or live against the wishes of said god and go to Hell.
It is not a statement about the validity of the existence of said god. Just a wager that if one lives as the Bible asks - one may find an eternal reward.
It does not take into account that said god has zero proof for existing. Said god may be a false god. Said god may not be the only god - etc. etc. etc.
The wager is false because it offers two answers and two answers only - live on the side of caution that Yahwah Sabaoth, Lord of Armies exists and will reward you or live against said god's wishes and burn in eternal torment.
Do you not see a flaw in that?
Living as though this god actually exists - OR - being mindful that he may or may not exist and living your entire life to the code of an ancient book and belief (and ancient does NOT equal fact - argument from antiquity). Yahweh Saboath, Lord of Armies may very well be false. Pacal does not make claims for this - he simply states that it is wise to believe in this ONE NARROW belief without an iota of proof and living your life accordingly.
I don't believe in God but I do think - once I'm gone - everyone else will be too.
I think there's a higher order to the universe, yes.
This thread again??
No i don't.
Next brilliant question?