Enders Game

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  1. Estocada

    Estocada Well-Known Member

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    I read this as a novella when it first came out and read the book it was expanded into. IMO, it really lost a lot by being expanded into an entire book. The great part of the novella or even very long story was that you didn't really understand that he was actually the real commander until right at the very end. The story starts with him as a child leading children 'armies' against other children armies in what was a lot like laser tag (20 years before laser tag was invented).

    The fact that he becomes the Supreme Commander while still thinking he was preliminary training is an idea that is a cliche now, like in 'Third From the Sun', where a desperate humanity is trying to escape TO Earth rather than from it. It was a great, original idea then just like Ender's slowly collapsing under the weight of the incredibly relentless 'training' is a beaten down idea.

    In the story, he destroys the alien 'homeworld' as an act of rebellion-he thinks it will disqualify him from Command School, as firing on a planet is strictly forbidden. He knowingly sacrifies his entire 'fleet' and gives up-telling them to attack the homeworld, as his fleet is vastly outnumbered and in a hopeless situation. He commits genocide to get out of having to train in increasingly impossible battle situations.

    A great story, probably about to be completely screwed as a movie. In the ads, they tell you right away he is the Commander, which was the original power of the story-him not knowing he has the supreme command of the human race in his hands.
     
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    Reggae Mistress Old Catcher's Mitt

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    I have a feeling the movie completely destroyed the story :nocheer:
     
  3. Estocada

    Estocada Well-Known Member

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    'He felt like crying, but he did the Relaxing Exercise until he didn't feel like crying anymore. He was a soldier, and if you had asked him what he wanted to be when he grew up, he wouldn't have known what you meant.'I still remember that line from the story. His training is brutal, two or three 'battles' a day. He is 12 years old and has been is training literally since he was 4 or so.
     
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    i'm a sci fi lover but i read the book way back when and wasn't all that impressed. interesting premise and all but it didn't hold my attention.

    as people have told me what a great book it was, i guess i'll give it another go.

    maybe i wasn't in the right frame of mind. :toke:

    :dontknow:
     
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    Thanks for spoiling this movie I'll probably never see...
     
  6. Estocada

    Estocada Well-Known Member

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    You are welcome, but the premise of the story is given away in the ads for the movie. You'd have to be at Lever level to have this thread be a spoiler.
     
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    Lever! i forgot about his going to work thread.

    i must catch up. :)
     
  8. Estocada

    Estocada Well-Known Member

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    The book really waters down the original story. Take a great story and add 200 pages of background and filler, and you have the book. The original was maybe 25-30 pages.
     
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    huh.

    i'll have to rummage around and see if i can find the original.

    quick and to the point. i like it. :)
     
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    Good lord you are still a horrific bore.
     
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    Estocada Well-Known Member

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    And you are still you, which is infinitely worse. Keep sucking hard, forklift king.
     
  12. TripTo My Taint

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    I'm watching this movie right now, this very second, and in reading this thread, you've managed to ruin every twist and sub-plot for me. Thanks, asshole, for the spoiler alert.

    I feel so cheap, dirty, and so used.
     
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    Thanks for bumping this causing me to read it and get spoiled!
     
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    I guess you're not, "Reader of the Year!"