Finally, an official that won't apologize

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  1. Shithead

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    Texas official won't apologize for Muslim-bombing Facebook post
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    "It's time we made peace with the Muslim world. "The post on the Facebook page of Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller (R-Stephenville) showed a mushroom cloud and noted that Japan has "been at peace" with the U.S. since the bombing of Nagasaki in 1945.
    AUSTIN, Tex. — Texas Agriculture Commissioner Sid Miller won't apologize for a shared post on his Facebook page that appears to suggest using an atomic bomb on the Muslim population, a spokesman for the Republican said Monday.

    The post shows a mushroom cloud and says Japan has "been at peace" with the U.S. since the 1945 bombing of Nagasaki. The end of the caption reads, "It's time we made peace with the Muslim world."

    The post was shared on Miller's Facebook page over the weekend but was removed Monday. Todd Smith, a political consultant for Miller, said he didn't know why the post was taken down but said critics outraged over the content should instead be demanding apologies from Islamic terrorists, Iranian leaders and President Obama for their words and actions.

    "We think those are all issues that deserve an apology and are much more serious than a thought-provoking Facebook post," Smith said.
     
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    Texas. No surprise there. :facepalm:

    He wants to declare was on Muslims. What an imbecile :jj:
     
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    How about we get Isis instead?
     
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  4. PI Nate

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    Yeah, why would he want to acknowledge/defeat an enemy that has declared their hatred and intention to destroy us.

    lefties, so warm and fuzzy with their enemies, unless its a domestic political opponent.

     
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    More offended that he's using the bombing of Nakasaki and Hiroshima as a good thing. I'm very Pro-America but it was abhorrent to bomb civilians. One of the worst things America has done, not that Japan was victimless but man it was civilians.
     
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    Nuke the middle east LOL. That will sure solve all of our problems there!
     
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    Google Dresden, Hamburg, Pforzheim or Tokyo bombing casualties. When your enemy is fanatical and their factories (ability to continue to make war) are among civilians, it's going to get ugly.

     
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    Your premise is lousy. There are over a billion and a half Muslims scattered throughout the world. You're going to nuke them? There's no such thing as the Muslim army. There is no country in which to bomb Muslims away into oblivion. The reasoning is even worse than the reasoning that led to Japanese internment camps in WWII.
     
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    He's losing a lot of those coveted "Texas muslim" votes with these controversial remarks. Very brave politician....
     
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    An awful event - no question. But Japan was NOT going to stop. There was no diplomacy with their "no surrender" mentality. Many, many American and arguably Asian lives were "saved" with that decision.
     
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    My father was in the pacific training for the invasion of Japan. He always said Those bombs saved his life.
     
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    I'll forgive him if he can point out at least half of the countries on a map.
     
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    Please ACTUALLY look into this.
    This bit of "it was the only option" has been proven false.
     
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    Nonsense.
     
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    When does the leftie apology tour end? I wouldnt have imprisoned any Americans during WWII w/out cause, but enough already. You hate being American dont you?

     
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    SouthernListen I don't follow the crowd. Sorry about that. VIP

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    Ironically, many times more Japanese civilians were saved by dropping those bombs. They would have starved, died of disease, and when invaded, died by the millions fighting and being caught in the crossfire of a war fought over a densely populated land.

    In Japan, unlike Europe, factories that make things like Kamikaze plans and midget subs designed to kill American invaders used sub-factories housed in Japanese homes. Machine work and such would be done by a worker using tools in his home or shed. The technology of the time was not precise enough to just hit factories anyway. High winds over Japan made bomb aiming nearly impossible. After failing in early attempts to do this, they switched to low altitude area bombing with incendiaries. Production was devastated and resulted in saving thousands of US and allied lives.

    Japan planned to murder all Allied POWs when an invasion came, throughout the occupied territories as well as Japan itself. The internees would also go. Also, millions of Asians would have died in spasms of reprisals by Japanese army units in China and southeast Asia.

    Thousands of Allied POWs, internees, and Asian civilians were dying daily from starvation, disease, and murder by Japanese occupiers. Ending the war sooner saved lives. and

    Japanese civilians worshipped the Emperor as a god on earth. Most were fighting to the death already, and it would have required a near extermination of the race to end the threat. This would have been followed by years or decades of occupation and guerrilla warfare.

    War is expensive. A long campaign to subjugate Japan would have cost many more American casualties than Japanese deaths in those attacks. Ok with you if your family members die so that Iraqi and Afghan civilians aren't harmed? Civilians would would cheer American deaths? Billions were being spent to maintain millions of men and thousands of ships in the Pacific. It took a long time to pay off the war debt as it was.

    You think all this wasn't debated back then? This was seen as the best of a set of bad alternatives. War is hell. They started it. They were soundly defeated. They still refused to surrender. By war's end most of their fleet was sunk but the ones who weren't lacked fuel to operate. The population was slowly starving. Still no surrender.

    In the context of the times, any President who had such weapons and failed to use them, preferring to have hundreds of thouands more American deaths, would have been (probably literally) drawn and quartered by the US public when this became public knowledge.

    Omaha Beach on D day nearly failed against a few hundred thinly spread German troops, half new recruits (though well trained) and half older men and Sovet "volunteers" who were captured POW's given the choice to fight for Germany rather than starve. The odds for US troops coming ashore against waves of fanatical Japanese troops and civilians would have been worse. While offshore their vulnerable transports would have been being attacked by suicide speed boats, midget subs and kamikazes. Germany put up TWO aircraft against the Allies on D Day. TWO.

    It was felt, and ultimately proven out in interviews with Japanese that only the shock of such an unanswerable weapon would have ended the war for sure. This is despite revisionist conjecture that so and so might have eventually changed their mind and voted to surrender.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_war_crimes


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    The were planning a million man invasion of the Japanese mainland, with expected 50% casualty rate deemed acceptable. Um no. BOOM.

     
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    Geez Reno! How old are you?
     
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    The civilian population of Okinawa didn't shed any tears for the mainland after the 2 nukes were dropped.
     
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