Fredo did not attend his Father Vito's funeral, let's discuss the possible reasons why

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  1. Mlaw

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    Because of @eliasbboy, I got sucked into watching The Godfather saga, in all the many times I've watched The Godfather I, it never occurred to me that Fredo was not at Don Vito's funeral. We know he was in Vegas with Mo Greene, but why wouldn't he have flown to New York to bury his father? What purpose would Coppola have to exclude him? Thoughts?

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    Fucking spoilers jeez
     
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    The "Spoiler Rule" does not apply to films made in the previous century
     
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    I may be imagining this since it's been years, but wasn't it mentioned in the books? :scratch:

    Fredo was so freaked out from the assassination attempt, screwing that up, and Sonny getting shot, Michael thought he'd be a blubbering mess and make a fool out of himself. They also wanted to weed out the rat, so it was as much business as it was a funeral.

    Again, I can't remember if I read that or just assumed it.
     
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    He wasn't that freaked out by the murder attempt on his father, he was banging cocktail waitresses two at a time :c
     
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    Fredo? Sound like a damn Hobbit. What the hell is you talkin about?

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    Stole this explanation from another website but it is spot on IMO:

    Michael didn't want him there. He had previously shown himself a coward and weakling (again) in his fumbling the job of protecting his own father during the previous attempted assassination. Not only did he miss spotting the assassins, he fumbled his gun AND just sat there crying.

    Michael had already been alerted that he needed to be wary and watchful at the funeral, to spot which of his men seemed chummy with the enemy, the Barzini's, and in fact it was Tessio who brokered the (fake) peace attempt, so Michael knew not to trust Tessio from that point forward.

    If Michael had allowed Fredo to attend, it would have been more likely that Fredo would have created a scene, emotionally, and embarrass the family, and more importantly, ruin Michael's opportunity to catch out the REAL traitor, Tessio.
     
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    He was busy banging cocktail waitresses two at a time.
     
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    meh, I read this too, I'm not convinced
     
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    if all 3 Corleone boys were there, the whole family could be gone with a few gunshots/well placed bomb
     
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    They were all together many times, I have to find a copy of the book, to see if it's mentioned
     
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    Because the Molinari family on the coast guaranteed his safety...you wanna talk business...let's talk business
     
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    I found another long-winded analysis:

    Among the graves in this cemetery, Don Vito’s grave is seemingly outstanding through its height and its elegance by the angel sculptures decorated on the gigantic gravestone in order to express the power of Don Vito, himself, and also of his family. Similarly to any other scenes, the idea of “family” is always appearing in this moment. In the funeral scene, we might notice the gravestone and those decorated sculptures, the adult angel surrounding by three little angels, which represent symbolically the Corleone Family, Don Vito and his three sons; Santino, Fredo and Michael. In this shot, Coppola intends to pose the adult angel sculpture looking on the right side of frame, where Corleone Family are all sitting in that position. The angel seems to look especially for Michael, according to his center-framed position, this means although Don Vito has passed away but his though and way of living are still existing deeply in each family member, and in the same time, he puts his trust on his last son, Michael, as his “Don” chair successor to maintain these two family; biological and Mafiosi, to reach the proper destination for which he had always expected.

    Moreover, in this scene, it is really surprising that Fredo, the second son, does not appear himself in the scene. This character’s disappearance means that Coppola needs to suggest the audience that Fredo is very weak and does not deserve to Coleone Family, as he wept like a woman as soon as seeing his father being shot by enemies or he took Moe Greene’s side instead of Michael, who reflects his Corleone Family, during business negotiation in Las Vegas. After all these weak and ignorant presentation, Fredo is gradually becoming the outsider of his own biological family, which leads him to death at the end of The Godfather: Part II.
     
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