Politics G.O.P. Candidates and Obama’s Failure to Fail

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    Paul Krugman
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    AUG. 10, 2015

    What did the men who would be president talk about during last week’s prime-time Republican debate? Well, there were 19 references to God, while the economy rated only 10 mentions. Republicans in Congress have voted dozens of times to repeal all or part of Obamacare, but the candidates only named President Obama’s signature policy nine times over the course of two hours. And energy, another erstwhile G.O.P. favorite, came up only four times.

    Strange, isn’t it? The shared premise of everyone on the Republican side is that the Obama years have been a time of policy disaster on every front. Yet the candidates on that stage had almost nothing to say about any of the supposed disaster areas.

    And there was a good reason they seemed so tongue-tied: Out there in the real world, none of the disasters their party predicted have actually come to pass. President Obama just keeps failing to fail. And that’s a big problem for the G.O.P. — even bigger than Donald Trump.

    Start with health reform. Talk to right-wingers, and they will inevitably assert that it has been a disaster. But ask exactly what form this disaster has taken, and at best you get unverified anecdotes about rate hikes and declining quality.

    Meanwhile, actual numbers show that the Affordable Care Act has sharply reduced the number of uninsured Americans — especially in blue states that have been willing to expand Medicaid — while costing substantially less than expected. The newly insured are, by and large, pleased with their coverage, and the law has clearly improved access to care.

    Needless to say, right-wing think tanks are still cranking out “studies” purporting to show that health reform is a failure. But it’s a losing game, and judging from last week’s debate Republican politicians know it.

    But what about side effects? Obamacare was supposed to be a job-killer — in fact, when Marco Rubio was asked how he would boost the economy, pretty much all he had to suggest was repealing health and financial reforms. But in the year and a half since Obamacare went fully into effect, the U.S. economy has added an average of 237,000 private-sector jobs per month. That’s pretty good. In fact, it’s better than anything we’ve seen since the 1990s.

    Which brings us to the economy.

    There was remarkably little economic discussion at the debate, although Jeb Bush is still boasting about his record in Florida — that is, his experience in presiding over a gigantic housing bubble, and providentially leaving office before the bubble burst. Why didn’t the other candidates say more? Probably because at this point the Obama economy doesn’t look too bad. Put it this way: if you compare unemployment rates over the course of the Obama administration with unemployment rates under Reagan, Mr. Obama ends up looking better – unemployment was higher when he took office, and it’s now lower than it was at this point under Reagan.


    O.K., there are many reasons to qualify that assessment, notably the fact that measured unemployment is low in part because of a decline in the percentage of Americans in the labor force. Still, the Obama economy has utterly failed to deliver the disasters — hyperinflation! a plunging dollar! fiscal crisis! — that just about everyone on the right predicted. And this has evidently left the Republican presidential field with nothing much to say.

    One last point: traditionally, Republicans love to talk about how liberals with their environmentalism and war on coal are standing in the way of America’s energy future. But there was only a bit of that last week — perhaps because domestic oil production has soared and oil imports have plunged since Mr. Obama took office.

    What’s the common theme linking all the disasters that Republicans predicted, but which failed to materialize? If I had to summarize the G.O.P.’s attitude on domestic policy, it would be that no good deed goes unpunished. Try to help the unfortunate, support the economy in hard times, or limit pollution, and you will face the wrath of the invisible hand. The only way to thrive, the right insists, is to be nice to the rich and cruel to the poor, while letting corporations do as they please.

    According to this worldview, a leader like President Obama who raises taxes on the 1 percent while subsidizing health care for lower-income families, who provides stimulus in a recession, who regulates banks and expands environmental protection, will surely preside over disaster in every direction.

    But he hasn’t. I’m not saying that America is in great shape, because it isn’t. Economic recovery has come too slowly, and is still incomplete; Obamacare isn’t the system anyone would have designed from scratch; and we’re nowhere close to doing enough on climate change. But we’re doing far better than any of those guys in Cleveland will ever admit.

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    This is getting sad to watch.
    As Obama's presidency comes to a close, Ving is getting desperate to distract from what a disaster for the country Obama's been:

    More debt added than any POTUS ever (in fact, ~as much as every other POTUS combined)
    Lowest labor force participation rate since the 1970's - 94,000,000 not working
    1 in 6 Americans living in poverty
    1 in 4 children living in poverty
    50 million Americans living off food stamps
    Average wages down thousands of dollars/year
    China overtakes US as world's largest economy
    economy shrunk last quarter
    50% of Americans have less than $500 in savings
    US credit rating downgraded
    His signature accomplishment - Obamacare - deeply unpopular with Americans
    Insurance premiums skyrocketing
    PolitiFact's Lie of the Year in 2013 for "If you like your plan..."
    Washington Post's Lie of the Year in 2014 for "ISIS is the JV team..."
    Restarted the Cold War
    Constant Cyberhackings
    Total disregard for the Constitution - changes laws at whim, gives imperial decrees on huge issues like amnesty for millions of illegals
    Refuses to link Islam to terrorism - even the ISLAMIC State - whatsoever
    ISIS spreading like wildfire (he told us they were the "JV team")
    multiple terrorist acts on American soil
    racial tensions exacerbated by his administration
    race riots
    wife has a dick



    Please stop posting unimportant, uninteresting, inane ramblings from chronically incorrect opinion columnists like paul krugman.

    You don't have to start a thread about every piece of liberal propaganda that fools your minuscule brain.
     
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    Financial experts in New York, London, and Brussels have tut-tutted Greece’s economic travails as Athens considers its future with the European Union. Why did they borrow so much money? How can they ever pay it back? Do they think that much debt is sustainable?

    Instead of pointing fingers at the innumerates running Athens, they should consider our own situation. Jason Russell of the Washington Examiner shows how America’s debt projections look suspiciously like Greece’s recent history.

    https://ricochet.com/athens-on-the-potomac/

    US economy continues its collapse

    http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2015/08/10/us-economy-continues-collapse-paul-craig-roberts/

    Under Obama, Blacks Are Worse Off -- Far Worse

    http://townhall.com/columnists/larr...s-are-worse-off--far-worse-n2028985/page/full
     
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    terrorists attack like when bush was president and 3000 people died ? you must be talking about the Boston marathon where a total of 3 people died? total disregard for the constitution like the patriot act started by bush? unemployment rate when bush left was 7.8% only at 5.3% right now. bush was the most hated president in american history, even a black guy cant beat that... lie of the decade "weapons of mass destruction in iraq" . just a few bullshit things ltd posted as usual. 1 in 6 million americans in poverty seems low, but you were so busy typing horseshit you forgot that error.
     
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