Discussion in 'The Howard Stern Show' started by usedtampon, Nov 14, 2015.
I hate threads like this - they are unintelligent and missinformed. You could go back to every president (Democrat and Republican) and find examples where they worked with these animals.
For example - FDR went out of his way to kiss the ass of the Saudi King way back in 1945. You could say that that opened the door for all this. But you can go back even further and find other examples.
These problems were not caused by one party or the other, but recent Presidents have failed to deal with the region in a way that best protects the nation.
OP is a complete dope.
Muslims have been fighting since there were Muslims. Learn some freakin' history.
OP probably thinks Afghanistan is located in the Middle East.
Not the first time Muslims have invaded France.
Charles the Hammer dealt with them the correct way.
Was he kissing ass, or securing Oil?
There's a difference in my opinion.
Why not thank Jimmy Carter. Until he came along Iran was on the road to western values under the Shah. Then Jimmy withdrew American support of him and Khomeini appeared and the Middle East has been a growing nightmare ever since.
For the record, this was going to happen under ANY President, and we're just starting WWIII.
We might face an internal Civil War, first.
There was a police/FBI incident at my buddy's house years ago. When they found my friend's father's old notebook, from the 80s, w/ addresses of Afghan warlords in it, they brought in Homeland Security. Was funny watching this lil pig man milk his Sunday double time, tryin to interrogate a 75+ y/o guy w/ Alzheimer's, when the first sentence he said told the story. "I wrote to them to tell them not to shoot soldiers waving white flags because they were Ukrainian and would help them fight the Russians."
When the pygmy finally stopped and walked away, my buddy's dad turned to his mom and said something in Ukie. She laughed and said in English, "No, don't worry. It's not time for the cyanide pills yet."
Love how the op doesn't seem to recall that little thing called the Cold War.
Not really - when you make a deal with a King - you piss off the people that the King subjugates.
My point was not to say FDR start this - of course he had to deal with King Saud to get oil. Instead, I was trying to say it's not fair or accurate to blame one of our Presidents for starting the problems in the regions. The globe has gotten smaller - travel is much easier between countries. The Internet promotes easy global communication.
It wasn't Obama or Bush or Clinton or Reagan or Carter..... who started this, and it does nothing but obfuscate the real issues to blame one party or the other. We can debate and argue about how to move forward, but arguing about the past does nothing buy piss people off.
I thought it all started with who is the heir to covenant? Abrahams son Issac or Ishmael?
What was I thinking.
blaming Reagan? really?
that's a real stretch there I tell ya. yup, hes dead
And here I thought this thread was gonna have something to do with McDonald's...
While that moment is another brick in the wall, you need to go back way farther to get to the beginning of the wall.
reagan actually was a big part of it.
check out Dan Carlin's Hardcore History episode on the cold war & the effects it had on the middle east. fascinating stuff
I know, but somehow he's really the one to blame
my name aint jimmy but I will take what you gimme.
I had an old neighbor that said that when I gave him my old couch for his screened porch...still funny.
I used to know the shah of irans money manager pretty well
He was a great dude. Met his sister once.