Was listening to the clip from 2005 when Gary was helping his son build a box car for the pinewood derby. Gary earlier complained how he had to go on a battleship with his sons and other fathers to spend a night. This took Howard by surprise why any parent would wanna do something that they didn't want but the kids did. Apparently howie doesn't realize that if you love your kids you do things even that you may not like. No wonder why his daughters don't talk to him. Even Robin sided with booey.