Howard's comments in NY Times' Letterman article

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  1. SteveZoo

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    Howard mentioned he spoke to the Times for an article on Letterman. Here is the excerpt. Link to article follows.

    Howard Stern, the provocative radio host, who appeared on Mr. Letterman’s show 43 times, said the second-fiddle ratings status reflected one of the host’s enduring strengths: He refused to compromise.

    “It freed him in some way,” Mr. Stern said. “He probably could have dumbed it down and done a long meaningless monologue that would have made for better ratings, but he stayed true to himself. That takes an unusual strength.”

    Mr. Letterman adjusted the form to make it work for him — not the other way around, Mr. Stern said.

    Though Mr. Letterman started out as a stand-up comic, he wasn’t purely a comedian on his show, Mr. Stern said.

    “He was a broadcaster,” he said. “When you’re on television and drag people through quarter-hours, which is really the job in a nutshell, how do you make someone sit through commercials? How do you make them feel so compelled to sit in front of a TV when they’re dead tired and have to get up to work the next day? A broadcaster knows how to do it. It’s not about the joke. It’s about being compelling, and it’s about being a leader so people want to follow you and want to hear your every word.”
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    Howard Stern said Mr. Letterman “stayed true to himself.” He adjusted the form to make it work for him, he said. Credit John P. Filo/CBS
    http://www.nytimes.com/2015/05/20/b...-counts-down-to-his-exit-from-late-night.html
     
  2. BethSucks

    BethSucks Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    "Robin, why are they calling me Captain Obvious"
     
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    Or he could be like you, Howard, and do long meaningless interviews in an attempt to get headlines for himself even though the audience is dying of boredom.
     
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    I hate Howard.
     
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    Black Sabbath Nothing to prove

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    Backhand insult to Leno! He is obsessed with him.....
     
  6. EmperorsNewCaps

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    The "Moses parting the sea" poses almost get me to fly into a rage, too.

    Every time, man, every time. It's his Beth knee-bend.
     
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    So do the lame excuses he makes for Letterman also explain why his buddy Kimmel will always be in 3rd place no matter who hosts the shows on NBC and CBS?
     
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    JessOnCrack Check out my maniacal laugh! Banned User

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    He's more a captain save a hoe with Beth lol
     
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    The Wigfraud is not even in the same orbit as any of the hosts on television. Why he thinks he is dynamite for ratings shows that he is just delusion as always. I did admire David Crosby so I tried to listen to the interview, but he kept interrupting with "knowledge" he acted like he always had about David. That is something I hate and shows he had Will or someone do the homework and show prep. Crosby has had a very interesting life but when he talked, Wiggy should have let him do that. Awful interviewer. Don't know why anyone says he is good at it. He could never carry a show. Holy crap, he needs to STFU. Just sayin'.
     
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    Homeboy's gonna get his ass fired after Colbert comes in and cleans up what's left of the 25-54 core demo.

    But I'm sure he'll be fine. His pal Carolla seems perfectly stable and a smidge bitter since he lost his late night TV gig...

    And I'm sure Tom Cruise & Julia Roberts will still want to come by for his weekend pizza parties when he has zero commercial vehicle to promote their shit projects on.
     
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    Gosh Howard, clueless much? What was the average time difference in Leno's and Letterman's monologues? 5%? 15% tops? Besides, how does a monologue equate to better ratings over sketches and celebrity interviews (something Leno and Letterman both did too).

    And how exactly did Dave "stay true to himself?" I had watched him since his short-lived morning show in 1980. Despite his veneer of sarcasm, I always sensed an energetic joy in his performance. I'd stay up well past midnight on school nights to watch.

    But when Leno started making serious gains in the ratings, it slowly ground down something crucial inside Letterman. Many nights he was just going through the motions -- he couldn't find his way back. Once Leno overtook him, Letterman phoned it in thereafter. I think most viewers could sense his bitterness & defeat. I gave up and never watched again.
     
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    What a narcissist...turning Letterman's retirement around as a self serving platform for pontificating. Sounds like Buchwald made a call to the NY Times and asked if they wanted an exclusive comment from Howard on Letterman's retirement.
     
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    While I love bashing Stern, you're pretty goddamn off. Leno's marathon monologues lasted at least 20-30 minutes and were the meat of the show, versus Letterman's 5-10 minutes almost as an afterthought or aside, and were widely cited as the reason he had such high ratings--people liked to wrap up their day with a topical, consistent monologue hitting on all corners of the news of the day. Leno did sketches and desk shit, but for barely a couple minutes at the top of the hour whereas Letterman did like 2-3 and that Top 10 list before a guest would come out.

    I get you were a Letterman fan and "tuned" out after he went bitter, but c'mon. You only had to watch one Leno in the span of 30 years to see his entire show was based around that opening monologue. He worked his strength, i.e. stand-up on news events.

    I didn't really "grow up" a huge fan of either, but different family members each had their favorites and the difference in focuses were blatant.
     
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    No, I'm correct for the time period under discussion. I did watch a few Leno's in the early-mid 90s. I liked Leno in the 80s when he was a frequent guest of Letterman. He was super-sarcastic and very witty. But he toned it down too much for me when he took over the Tonight Show.

    While Leno may have evolved to 30 minute monologues much later, he was not doing them that long when he overtook Letterman in 1995. I know this because when Letterman finished his monologue, I would sometimes cycle over to Leno to see if he had any hot chicks for guests (this was pre-Internet porn and spank material was much more rare). Leno was often wrapping up his monologue or already in commercial. The pacing differences at that time were not stark.

    So your theory for Leno's victory is a more interesting and complete version of Howards, but still just as incorrect.

    BTW, assuming you are correct for the 2000s era, how did Leno get away with 30 minute uninterrupted monologues? All the post prime time talk shows have always had tons of commercial breaks.
     
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    This is an interesting observation you've made about Letterman mailing it in. I watched a clip of Letterman on Carson back when it was decided that Leno would be getting the Tonight Show gig. Letterman was still filled with a bit of vitriol and hilarity that I have found missing in his performances for the better part of a decade if not longer. Mind you, I'm not watching every night and I may have seen a couple unintentional sub-par performances, but I just never got Letterman - at least the one we've been watching in the 21st century. It's not my thing. Not that Leno was. All these fucking late night shows have seen better days. Maybe it's just our culture and I can find a dozen better things to do at 11:30 that DON'T include watching talk show hosts mail it in for the middle America crowd.
     
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    Letterman didn't have huge laugh out loud moments, at least not as much as I've enjoyed with Stern. BUT, longevity-wise Dave stayed trued to himself and that's something most of us don't feel anymore with Howard. :coffee:
     
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    RIP to Howard's daily monlogue segment. 2012 - 2014. Howard made you terrible; Johnny made you great. Some highlights:

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    Some time ago, Letterman made a decision to stop the top (10) list every day as he felt it was being overused and detracted from it being a very special topic only when it was really funny to present. There was such a public outcry and demand to bring it back Letterman and the producers had to comply with audience demand even though he felt it was compromising the quality of the show.
     
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    More please!!!!!