Politics I find it fascinating that the majority of you free market capitalists...

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  1. Mlaw

    Mlaw Quite Contrarian Gold

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    who believe that people should not be given hand outs, and that the government should not redistribute wealth, suddenly believe in socialism when it comes to Howard's money.

    Of course Howard should pick up the tab for his cousin, who apparently failed to adequately plan for the possibility that he may become ill and/or unemployed, and be unable to work.

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    BethSucks Well-Known Member Staff Member

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    It has zero to do with political perspective and everything to do with common decency and basic humanity. There are few people in the world that would not give an hour's pay to a sick relative they claim to care for.
     
  3. Shart Garfunkel

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    Invalid analogy. Many capitalists who are against GOVERNMENT redistributing wealth, are actually quite pro-charity. Plus, as a good liberal, one could assume Howard is pro-wealth distribution, unless, (gasp) like many liberals, he doesn't want that to apply to him. But as a caring liberal, shouldn't he want to help his down on his luck cousin?
     
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    The guy was family, but why would anyone waste money on helping a family member. The most humane thing to do was let him die with dignity. Beth tried to get him a forever family, but the ungrateful fuck refused to get in the cat cage. Your move mlaw
     
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    SouthernListen I don't follow the crowd. Sorry about that. VIP

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    Here, hold my sandwich, I need to eviscerate this.

    1. Capitalism in no way forbids VOLUNTARY charity. Most proponents of it encourage that.
    2. Government redistribution of wealth by definition requires the use of force. It relies on "i'm not really paying for it, somebody else is", magical thinking.
    3. Commenting on Howard's refusal to VOLUNTARILY help a relative while VOLUNTARILY blowing cash on credit-seeking NSAL donations, does not mean one "believes" in socialism.
    4. They're not calling for Howard to be FORCED to chip in. See the difference?
    5. His cousin did indeed fail to save sufficiently, or have sufficient disability insurance to handle a major illness. Just like 90% or more of Americans. That doesn't mean the solution is to reduce the incentive to do so via nanny state programs. Or to impoverish young people to pay for the benefits older people get now that they will certainly not.
    6. One reason they got online to ask for money is that they DID earn a living. Those who refuse to work qualify for plenty of help these guys did not.
    7. Many "free market capitalists" don't even object to forms of socialism like safety nets. It's the scope, cost, corruption, and poisonous nature of the current system they don't care for.
    8. Guess who actually gives and who says "it's the government's job".
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    Wealth redistribution is not a bad thing. In fact, I'd say it's pretty smart for modern society.

    Government inefficiency, waste and bloat are the true evils.
     
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    I'm a libertarian and the point is you don't look to the government to take care of you . You help yourself and your family . Howard had the money to take care of his family . That's the point . Why should the rest of us pay when there is a family member who could have given a helping hand but didn't lift a finger . It's not socialism that we think he should have helped . It's just someone in his position should know enough to help. Nothing socialist about thinking that .
     
  8. Mlaw

    Mlaw Quite Contrarian Gold

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    ...and none of you know what Howard did or didn't do, what his cousin ask for or didn't ask for, or may have refused.

    You can't eviscerate Howard for not going to his services, so pull something out of your asses --hilarious
     
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    Lol at this fake lawyer being such a retard. He is probably some secretary the lawyers use to scan papers and throw shit at when they are bored. No one this illogical can ever be involved in a legal case.


    Unless of course the only clients are the leaches on society this faggot seems to care so much about. If he is a lawyer, he's the asshole representing some black lady with 8 kids, no father in sight, and just assaulted a poor indian business owner for running out of grape soda.
     
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    For me, it is more of a frustration that other shoe members do not realize their worth and how much value they bring to a show with a $100M budget. Eric the Actor, for example, was used for hundreds of hours of entertainment at almost zero cost to Howard.

    But to Howard's credit, he seems more than happy to gravitate towards those who fail to create other options for themselves. Stuttering John is a hero for the tonight show job he was able to land.
     
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    OR hes not a liberal.


    mlaw, no one wants to pass a law that howard should have to help his family.
    but most of us have spent a much larger % of income on others
     
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    There would have been no need for a GoFundMe page if Howard had privately paid the expenses.
     
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    i dont listen, and i dont care what he says or does.
    however, ppl can only comment on what he says, as everyone here has always done.
    u are advocating no one can ever comment on the show, cause its a show
     
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    She only looks like a man.
     
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    When I go over and trim my mother in law's shrubs and trees, I'm supporting socialism. Never again!
     
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    I've said it before, and I'll say it again.....

    You really are fucking stupid.
     
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    They eviscerate while you ball gargle. And who wins? The shed of course! The shed always wins!
     
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    JessOnCrack Check out my maniacal laugh! Banned User

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    @Mlaw sucks black dick fresh out of jail lol
     
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    and not one person knows what Howard has spent on any members of his family

    that's utterly ridiculous, you assume Howard was at any point told that there was an issue with medical expenses, he may have handled it as soon as he was aware.