I really smell another Cold War coming on.

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  1. Hersh

    Hersh Active Member

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    I hate communism, I think, but in a way it works. All democracies have failed without a purge they history.. You can't have a populous that ultimately rules. Humans can't handle it. You have to have social levels.
     
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    Just, this time it may play out.
     
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    harlock ancora imparo Gold

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    there will be the elite and the peasants, no in between.
     
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    Just throwing this out there but there's such a thing as capitalism without the deregulated, deindustrialized and overfinancialized mess that is the free-market system, it was called the American School of capitalism. Just don't tell so-called conservatives and libertarians they don't know anything about American history or economics and what they believe is nothing more than an egocentrically-empowering mythology... http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_School_(economics)
     
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    There used to be a middle class. At some point people will get sick of it. Blue collar workers the pot is simmering and ready to explode.
     
  6. SouthernListen

    SouthernListen I don't follow the crowd. Sorry about that. VIP

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    Sorry, I don't speak Gibberish.
     
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    You speak asshole quite fluently though.
     
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    the elite and the peasants both hate the middle class now.
     
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    A lot of working class people think they are middle class and they're not. I'm not talking about welfare recipients. The people that are mad have a mortgage more than there house is worth ,maybe a long commute that's sucking their wallet dry, ect ect.
     
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    i don't consider working class to be peasants. i'm probably not using the correct term.
     
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    It might if the powerful could concede power.

    But a communist state has never existed because the leaders do not want to give up their dominance.
     
  12. itpdude

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    I had a tenant who rented one of my townhomes. He had three kids with his wife and one kid with an ex-wife.

    He had a lot of trouble keeping up with rent, had trouble keeping up with his utilities, had been arrested for non-payment of child-support, and I eventually evicted him. His old unit continued to receive mail. About half of it appeared to be collection letters.

    He wasn't a bad guy, per se. You're never happy with a tenant you have to boot, but he was okay enough. We were friendly and would talk. One time he looked at me in all earnestness and said these exact words: "I'm middle-class."

    My undergrad was econ, I was a staff economist for a real estate company, so believe me when I say this: He was not, by definition, middle-class. He wasn't when I accepted him as a tenant and especially was not middle-class when I kicked him out.

    But the politicians and media propaganda machine convinced him that he is middle-class.

    Hell, the propaganda machine has also convinced people who make $400k a year they are middle-class, too.
     
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    those who attempt to level, never equalize.

    -edmond burke
     
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    Edmond Burke, the less famous cousin of Edmund Burke.