Politics If I were advising the candidates, I would be pounding Trump on his ties to casinos...

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  1. Mlaw

    Mlaw Quite Contrarian Gold

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    For the life of me, I don't understand why no one has hit him on this issue. Casinos bleed people of their money. I know, I know, no one forces people to gamble, but casinos install ATMs, extend credit, ply people with free booze to keep them at the "tables," and there is no disputing the damage gambling can do to families, businesses, and communities.

    I would be unrelenting in the attacks

    The debate over the social and health costs of legal gambling has largely been sidelined even as availability has expanded dramatically in the last 25 years. This is not because of a lack of merit, say experts and activists, but because of the political power of the gambling industry. They allege that the industry has employed tactics in the same spirit as those of tobacco companies, which for many years misled consumers about the addictive properties of cigarettes and advertised to young people and other vulnerable consumers.

    According to Les Bernal, the national director of Stop Predatory Gambling, a Washington, D.C.-based non-profit, “This is one of the biggest public health issues in America today that no one has been paying attention to.”

    A few experts predict that as stories of gambling addiction become more common, suits like that of Stacy Stevens will increase and could even succeed, as tobacco lawsuits did. “Ultimately gambling will be linked to the increase in social costs, gambling will be linked to the problems it creates, just like smoking was ultimately linked to cancer,” says Dr. Earl Grinols, a professor of economics at Baylor University. “It can take a while.”

    https://psmag.com/gambling-with-america-s-health-521090de3ffe#.rqq9dwhfq
     
  2. DrivenByDemons

    DrivenByDemons Spinoff Jesus Staff Member

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    You want to pound Trump :lol:
     
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    DrivenByDemons Spinoff Jesus Staff Member

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    I'm sorry. I'm exhausted.
     
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    Mlaw Quite Contrarian Gold

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    Though problem gamblers are a minority of visitors to casinos, their spending accounts for anywhere from 35 to 50 percent of the revenues, according to several studies summed up in a paper by the Institute for American Values, a non-partisan think tank that focuses on family and social issues.
     
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    Mlaw Quite Contrarian Gold

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    I threw that softball, and knew it when I did :jj:
     
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    BrulesRules Just grab 'em in the biscuits Gold

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    It always has to be somebody else's fault now right? More pushing the blame of personal responsibility onto others. Just what this country needs more of mlaw. :no:
     
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    His supporters certainly don't give a fuck and I doubt that it would matter to anyone on the fence.

    Why would they waste their time?
     
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    DrivenByDemons Spinoff Jesus Staff Member

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    I knew it when I responded. We just can't let em go for some reason. :jj:
     
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    Zarathustra Well-Known Member

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    Outlaw casinos! :prancing:
     
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    I don't think he owns casinos anymore. He got rid of the ones in Atlantic City.
     
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    Shouldve guessed DBD wouldve hit that one.
     
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    sumtexan Consentido de Dios Gold

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    The problem with attacking him on the casino issue is that he's not involved in criminal or illegal activity, and many Americans enjoy gambling. The better business issue to beat him with is his tendency to engage in fraudulent behavior and walk away leaving others holding the bag - e.g.,bankruptcies (duping investors into investing, and losing, millions with his companies while he knew they were sinking ships), the fraudulent inducement claims with his Trump University, etc.
     
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    I'm sure Hillary has loads of material just lined up to shoot off like rockets.

    Casinos and building them on junk bonds only to bankrupt each one multiple times.
    Ties to organized crime while building said casinos.
    Federal Housing Authority lawsuit against Trump Inc (whose Pres was DJT) in the late 1970's finding discriminatory practices in housing.
    Trump Tower built by undocumented immigrant workers.
    Three marriages.
    Affair with Marla Maples that broke up marriage #1
    Misogynistic statements about women throughout his public life.
    Anti-semantic views and statements throughout his public life.
    etc, etc, etc
     
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    Mlaw Quite Contrarian Gold

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    I'm looking at this from a strictly political standpoint.

    Q: Mr Trump, why did your casinos provide free alcohol to people who are gambling?

    Q: Mr. Trump, when your casinos provide free transportation, perks and hotel rooms to gamblers do you require that they gamble a
    certain amount

    Q: When your casinos issue credit to patron, what rate of interest is charged and how long are the terms?

    Q: How much in fees are generated by the use of ATM's within the casinos?

    Q: When issuing lines of credit, how dis your casino determine if the patron is credit worthy?
     
  15. Jayla

    Jayla Ou ai-je l'esprit? Gold

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    Tl
    Tl;dr. I guess thread title summarizes ?
     
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    stick to jaywalking tickets bro
     
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    He's a businessman with legal businesses
     
  18. Mlaw

    Mlaw Quite Contrarian Gold

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    Many people enjoy smoking, but if Trump had owned a couple of tobacco companies, believe me, it would be a huge issue.

    That article says, 35-50% of the revenue comes from people with gambling problems, they pray on them, entice them with free shit, and make it easy to keep them gambling.

    The free booze alone is designed to decrease inhibitions, and destroy rational thinking. People gambling get free booze, people not gambling don't. Just that fact is pretty damning, no?
     
  19. JameGumb

    JameGumb We're all out of toner!

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    Mlaw thinks it's Trumps fault that people choose to go to a casino and lose their money.
     
  20. Jayla

    Jayla Ou ai-je l'esprit? Gold

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    True of all casinos which I think most Americans know.
     
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