Politics If trump is a liar...

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  1. Beth143nacho

    Beth143nacho Well-Known Member VIP

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    ... because he used a similar likeness (instead of actual footage) to illegals crossing the border in one of his ads. Such a "breach of trust" is beneath the office of POTUS...

    What do you call this:

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    Yup. Just tugged to hitler....
     
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    All politicians and wannabe politicians are liars! Even Trump!
     
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    Prude
     
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    Hillary Clinton is the most miscast figure on the 2016 political stage
    d Rogers January 4 at 12:44 PM headed in the wrong direction, and a sense that anger at the governing establishment is the prevailing emotion. It looks like the forces of change are gathering — and among today’s presidential candidates, on either side, Clinton is the biggest mismatch for today’s zeitgeist. That is particularly true among Republican and independent voters, but even some Democrats are questioning Clinton’s suitability. Just look at the phenomenal success of oddball Sen. Bernie Sanders (I-Vt.), who is drawing enthusiastic support from the left wing of the Democratic Party, as well as the stunning news that Ron Burkle, a billionaire Democrat and Hillary ’08 supporter, has abandoned Clinton for John Kasich’s presidential campaign. Clearly, Clinton is missing the moment — yet, somehow, she is also the only candidate practically guaranteed a spot in the finals this November.

    When you think about the state of the economy, the dysfunction of our foreign policy and the growing partisanship in our country, it’s not hard to see why Clinton appears so out of step. On our anemic economy, Clinton would be an Obama 2.0; she doesn’t even pretend to be something different or new. She is promising more of the usual Democratic freebies to more people. Nothing about her policies would stimulate robust growth; she barely even uses the word “growth.” Obama’s weakening of America’s place in the world has caused anxiety about our national security, and Clinton can’t disassociate herself from our foreign policy debacles. And in the specific instance of Libya, where Clinton was in charge, look what that got us. No one on the left or right thinks U.S. involvement in Libya is a formula for success in the future. Not to mention, at home, like Obama, Clinton is a divisive figure. She regularly calls Republicans her enemies, even comparing Republicans to “terrorist groups”; she buys into conspiracy theories that allow her to blame others for her mistakes; and she surrounds herself with partisan sycophants.

    There is no case to be made that Clinton is a refreshing change, that she has the answers and the leadership abilities to not only bring the country together but also to reverse the chaos abroad that threatens the United States today. If Washington doesn’t work now, Clinton is not going to bring a new leadership style, energy or fresh appeal to the White House to change anything. At least when Bill Clinton ran for president, he was credible as a “New Democrat.” Clinton can’t try to make the claim that she is a “new” anything.

    Clinton can’t successfully play the woman card because she is so clumsy in doing so. Instead of allowing voters to determine for themselves that she is a woman, oddly, she seems to constantly need to remind everyone of that fact. She wants voters to believe that she has some unique or enhanced capacity to lead on “women’s issues,” but both Donald Trump’s latest attacks and the Bill Cosby scandal have reawakened the public’s interest in several old sex scandals and in the process, this has compromised Clinton’s credibility. Both show us that the statute of limitations on sexual harassment — both legally and in the public relations realm — is a long one. We are reminded that when Clinton had an opportunity to stand up against workplace sexual harassment, she herself became an attack dog against the victim and an enabler for the perpetrator. At the end of the day, the issue won’t drive many votes, but it is a stark reminder of Clinton’s cynicism and hypocrisy.

    The bottom line is that if voters are looking for change, there is no affirmative case to be made for electing Hillary Clinton as president. So what is she to do? Simple. She will need to attack the Republican nominee. 2016 may be the most vicious campaign ever, as Clinton has to make the Republican candidate unacceptable. Arguably, Republicans could do their part by nominating a candidate who will be hard to swallow. But the Clinton forces don’t have a choice. And actually, given her limited presentation skills, it is a campaign strategy that will suit her.

    The Empire will go negative and do so early. So while Americans are looking for peace, prosperity, a booming economy, a robust and assertive national security, a return to competent governing and to be given confidence about the future, all they will get from Clinton and the Democrats are scare tactics, crocodile tears and outright lies about Republicans. Welcome to the 2016 campaign.
     
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    Isn't fun watching Nacho flop around running around trying to defend trump tonight? He has been in ever thread e-knighting :jj:
     
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    agreed... but theres lies and theres LIES. Trump used stock footage. Hillary attacked rape victims to preserve her political potential then turned around and made that video. What trump did not only pales in comparison, but is a technique used in print and digital media every day. Using stock images is the way things work.,
     
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    To be honest I hadn't noticed.
     
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    Its not me trying to make something out of nothing.
     
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    Not when you're making a specific point.
     
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    please feel free to answer the question tho @dawg. Whos the bigger liar here, Hillary or trump?
     
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    did trump misrepresent his point in any way?
     
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    He's not a liar. He's a self-important asshole.
     
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    They are both liars, i dont know how many lies it would between them, the country doesn't need either one to be President.
     
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    everyones a self important asshole these days :)
     
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    But yes Nacho, i agree Hillery is a career liar.
     
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    One of them is likely to be president. Hillary is running unopposed and trump hasn't trailed statistically since declaring.
     
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    Interesting how often the defense for Trump is "Hilary is worse"
     
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