Discussion in 'The Howard Stern Show' started by RenchFries, Mar 4, 2016.
Do you guys think he'd still have a chance?
The US presidential elections always fascinate me.
No precedent for an independent winning the Presidency, but there's a first time for everything. Personally, I think it would split the republican vote and give Hillary a clear path, which is what happened when her husband ran. Perot ran as an independent, split the republican vote and allowed Bill to win.
Absolutely he would have a chance! But as it is, he's headed towards the Republican nomination...from a historical standpoint, that's a lot better chance of winning the presidency than a popular Independent.
In case you care he's giving a speeck 1 pm eastern and like the gentleman said there's always a 1 st time
Didn't he sign his fucking bullshit pledge he wouldn't do that
Hey rench, look up 1992 primaries/elections. Ross Perot totally fucked the GOP when he ran as indy. It split the faggot GOP vote, gave slick willy the presidency.
No because he would be pulling from the GOP way more than the democrats so their nominee would win by default.
Oh please, anything Donald Trump's ever signed may as well be printed on toilet paper.
The 1992 Battleground Survey — conducted and analyzed on a bipartisan basis by The Tarrance Group (a fabled GOP firm) and Lake Research Partners (a storied Democratic firm) — shows the following:
On September 30 — the last day before Perot re-entered the race — Clinton led Bush by an 11-point margin, at 49-38 percent, with Perot taking six percent.
One day later — the day Perot re-entered the race — Clinton’s lead shrank to nine points, 47-38 percent, with Perot nudging up a point to seven percent.
Thirty days later, on November 1 — the last day the survey was fielded — Clinton’s lead had shrunk further, to just four points, at 40-36 percent over Bush, with Perot polling at 19 percent.
So, during the course of Perot’s late-season charge, Clinton’s support dropped from 49 percent to 40 percent (a significant nine-point drop), while Bush’s support dropped from 38 percent to 36 percent (a mere two-point drop, inside the margin of error of the survey).
Meanwhile, Perot was gaining 13 points on the ballot — nine points of which came from Clinton, two points of which came from Bush, and two points of which came from previously undecided voters.
In other words, to the extent voters left Bush and Clinton for Perot, those who left Clinton for Perot outnumbered those who left Bush for Perot by more than 4-to-1.
Worse for the Barbour/Quayle argument, the remaining five percent of voters who remained undecided right up until the election split 3-1-1 for Clinton-Bush-Perot on Election Day. That’s another way of saying that on the day before the election, 80 percent of the remaining undecided voters had, in fact, decided — they had decided they were not going to vote for Bush. They just hadn’t decided whether they would ultimately cast their vote for Clinton, or for Perot. And Clinton ended up getting 75 percent of them.
Do the math. Had Perot not been in the race, Clinton’s final tally likely would have been 13 points higher than it was, while Bush’s likely would have been just three points higher.
Without Perot in the race, the final outcome likely would have been 56-40 percent, Clinton over Bush. That would have been the worst loss by a Republican President seeking reelection since 1932, when Franklin Roosevelt crushed Herbert Hoover by a 57-40 percent margin.
He did sign it, but that was on the stipulation that the gop would treat him fairly and that doesn't seem to be happening.
Independents got cut off at the knees after Ross Perot made a good showing.
It would be great if the people who don't/won't vote would get out and throw a vote for the hell of it to the Libertarian Party. They got 1% last time, so eventually (decades, I know...) the system would have to introduce third party into the debates, etc. Most people I know are in the grey area but feel obligated to vote lesser of two evils. I used to but felt kinda dirty when I did. Last election I felt better about my vote...
For the record I'm registered NPA and probably voting for Gary Johnson again.
Sanders is an Independent, and should have stayed one, and really had the balls to see if his message could carry him to the White House
Brokered convention, the establishment is scared at loosing the gravy train and actually having to work for a living.
Fuck'em I say