If you believe the Kentucky clerk should be able to refuse to issue marriage licenses to gays...

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  1. Mlaw

    Mlaw Quite Contrarian 2010 OG VIP Gold

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    then do you believe that a Muslim teacher can refuse to teach girls, and that a Catholic judge can refuse to grant divorces?

    I'm curious as to whether your support of "religious freedom" extends beyond this particular set of circumstances. Or let's say an Orthodox Jew is the clerk, and refused to issue a marriage license for a Jew and a Muslim to marry. At what point do you draw the line?

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  2. John Daniels

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    I support Howards view.....muslims should have all rights
     
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    She was voted into office.
    Does she have to be impeached? Wait till the next election ?
     
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    Mlaw Quite Contrarian 2010 OG VIP Gold

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    from what I've read she has to be impeached, the next time the legislature is in session. I'm not sure if they could do a recall election
     
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    Mlaw Quite Contrarian 2010 OG VIP Gold

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    I really am curious where folks can draw the line. Obviously priests, ministers, etc can refuse to marry people. But I'm talking about individuals in public office, do they really have to the right to decide, who they will serve, based upon their religion?

    A man allowed his daughter to drown in Saudi Arabia (I believe) rather than allow a male lifeguard to touch her ---is that ok?
     
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    You also have to take into account, that pretty much anyone can create their own religion or church ---See John Oliver--- So which religious belief's trump others?
     
  7. gwartney

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    If we allow this clerk to claim her religious right then we can't complain about people invoking sharia law either.
     
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    I hate this I hate this I hate this.

    I cannot STAND when morons bring religion into American politics. :punch:

    We are not now, nor ever have been, a Christian country. Religion has no place in our governmental process. The ONLY reason it has a presence at ALL it voter pandering.

    If you are stupid enough to believe the founding fathers added "one Nation under God" to the pledge and "In God we Trust" to the currency you should not be allowed to vote.

    Imagine if a Muslim clerk refused a marriage license to a man and woman. These same people supporting this broad would lose their minds.

    I can't believe we still have religious beliefs integrated into politics. WTF.
     
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    in civil or public service there should be no differences. within the private or religion area differences are permissible.

    for example: an orthodox jew court clerk should never refuse a civil license for a mixed marriage, but within the religion its ok.
     
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    I draw the line where their beliefs start affecting me.
     
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    newcastlefan Banned VIP Gold

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    that's why separation of church and state is so important to maintain. politicians who pander to religious or ethnic groups should be removed from office. for example: DiBlase' and his cronies.
     
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    May the lord bless you for this fine comment.
     
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    EVERY politician panders to religious and ethnic groups. Name one who doesn't.