I'm thinking of buying an old-ass diesel Mercedes

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  1. RenchFries

    RenchFries Official Dawgshed Dutch representative Gold

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    I'm saving up money to buy a car and I'm looking at my options. Over here we must pay tax on owning a car and fun/big/luxury cars are really fucking expensive to own, that's why everyone drives around in silly gay-looking small cars.

    So one option is a 5-10 year old small car like a Seat, Volkswagen Golf or something Japanese. Because of the popularity of these cars, they're relatively expensive to buy, even 2nd hand. The bigger and heavier you car, the more road tax you have to pay. So big cars are relatively cheap because almost no one wants them.

    A small car is around 300 a year in tax. A BMW 7 series costs over a 1000 a year. A big SUV is pretty much double that. This rule doesn't apply to cars over 25 years old.

    I've heard many great stories on the old diesel Mercs from the eighties in terms of reliability. On top of that, diesel is a lot cheaper over here than gasoline. I'd rather cruise around in a huge old car than a newer small car. The 300 series looks fuckin' awesome.

    Purchase price is the same on these cars, believe it or not.

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    Are there any folks around here driving around in an old Benz?
     
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    Gomez Well-Known Member

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    my boss does - but he was a german auto mechanic for a long time, so he keeps it running.
    but I've heard they can be a huge money toilet
     
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    Go for it!

    My last car was an old MB...I absolutely loved it.

    My boss own two that take diesel and converted them to Biodiesel.

    They are sharp-looking, reliable, and classy(pre-1991 models, that is).
     
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    yup, whatever it needs, its expensive.

    buy an old ford & mack will send you parts with only a 200% markup.
     
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    i had an old benz, but it wasn't a diesel. it was awesome. but is the "fat tax" every year? that will add up significantly
     
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    I'm so confused :bigcry:
     
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    P-B Honourary Canuck Gold

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    A W123 Diesel will run forever with minimal expense, as long as it's properly maintained and isn't a turbodiesel.

    Because turbos are evil and self-destructive, that's why.
     
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    P-B Honourary Canuck Gold

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    You wanna know how they tax trucks in Europe?
     
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    The late models are crap for reliability but they will still nickle and dime you to death. Have one thing go on it and even an aftermarket part will be expensive.
     
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    Yep, every single fucking year.

    So yeah, even if you own a shitty little car for ten years it has cost you 3000 bucks in taxes.

    A mid-sized saloon car is really the smallest I would want to drive around in as my main vehicle, think Chevy Cruze size. That would cost me around 700 bucks in tax anually, and that's even without throwing gas in it, which is over $8 a gallon.

    Diesel is around $6 a gallon and diesel engines get better mileage, so an old diesel car is win-win, money wise (at least according to my plan).
     
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    stripes Active Member Banned User

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    europe is such a fucking disaster
     
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    probably would go with the Jetta TDI then :hat:
     
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    It's gotta be one older than 25 years too then, because road tax on diesels is way higher than on gasoline cars, almost twice as much. You need to drive at least 18.000 miles a year to get the cheaper fuel advantage out of it. A diesel Jetta is around 1600 a year in road tax.
     
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    holy crap. what country is this, that wants everyone to ride bicycles?
     
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    I did this once and I regretted it.

    I bought a used infiniti Q45 which new would have been around $63,000, but the one I bought had a ton of miles on it, several years old, etc.

    Long story short: for every moment of "I'm driving a luxury car, isn't this great" - like when you're going out on the town on a Saturday night, there are 100 moments where it is a pain in the ass - like when you're driving to work, to the store, running errands, etc.

    Horrible, horrible gas mileage and even very basic and simple repairs cost a fortune. You spend a fortune to fill it up and then 2 days later, it's at a quarter tank.

    I dumped the car for a Toyota Camry was so thrilled to be rid of it.
     
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    That's the Netherlands, man. A lot of shit over here is awesome but it really sucks ass to have a car over here.
     
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    not exactly bicycle weather year round either :jj:
     
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    stripes Active Member Banned User

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    ya, this is correct, i've got nothing but bad stories from friends who had the old mercedes...always broken & always cost a grand or more to fix the simplest shit every fucken time.
     
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    Those diesel Mercs I got my eye on supposedly do 25-30 mpg, which is pretty awesome actually.

    Why is it a pain in the ass to drive it to work?

    But yeah, the only thing I'm afraid of is expensive repairs, but even then still. These cars are famous for going over a million miles, and most cars in my price range have around 150k miles on them.
     
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    Fucking tell me about it.

    Public transport is really good here, but still, it will never beat driving your own car.