Gary has been with the show since the beginning. Sal and Richard were both super fans before getting hired. Fred has seen every different line up of talent.... My question is... Are they aware how bad things have become? I get that they can't say anything... But are they too blinded by money, Howard ass kissing and propaganda to realize how far the show/brand has fallen? Do they realize the channels are falling apart? Do they secretly shake their heads at P.C. AGT Howard? Do they call Beth "Yoko" behind her back? Listening to Gary and John (and honestly the rest of the crew) on the Wrap Up Show its hard to gauge the pulse of the staff.