Both of these men have been critical in the building of the saloon. There is no way in hell i could have ever done this on my own. Both men took calls from me when i was in real need of help and both of them pulled me out of a hard place. I have never thanked them publicly but i think they both deserve it. About a year ago, i left this place for a month and came closer than you know to just shutting down the site. We dwindled to about 25 members online on a good night. Now here we are on a very busy forum. Who would have thought? Spazz, Monk. I love you guy's in a non gay way.