Politics Kentucky restores voting rights for 170,000 ex-cons, joining national trend

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    Kentucky Governor Steve Beshear on Tuesday signed an executive order restoring voting rights to most felons in state in an action he said will affect some 180,000 people.

    Once felons have completed their sentences, including any probation or parole, and have made court-mandated restitution, they will have their rights automatically restored as long as they have no additional cases pending, Beshear said.

    Felons convicted of violent or sex crimes, bribery and treason are excluded.

    Previously, felony offenders needed to apply to the governor's office to have their voting rights restored. Now, Beshear said, the Department of Corrections will make the determination.

    "The old system is unfair," Beshear said to reporters at the state Capitol. "We need to be smarter in our criminal justice system. Research shows that ex-felons who vote are less likely to commit new crime and return to prison. That's because if you vote, you tend to be more engaged in society."

    Kentucky is one of four states that requires its governor to sign off on the restoration of a felon's voting rights.

    The issue has long been debated in Kentucky as the state House of Representatives, controlled by the Democrats, has passed a restoration bill 10 times in the last nine years only for it to die in the Republican-controlled Senate.

    The issue does have broad support as U.S. Senator Rand Paul urged the passage of a bill that would have restored the right to non-violent felons.

    However, even Republican officials who support restoring rights criticized the governor's approach. State House minority leader Jeff Hoover said Beshear "has chosen to usurp the authority" of lawmakers. Hoover also believes the move requires an amendment to the state constitution.

    Beshear responded by saying the state constitution gives him the right to restore voting rights.

    Beshear has served two terms as governor and was prohibited from running again. Earlier this month, Republican Matt Bevin, who supports reinstatement, won election and will be inaugurated in December.

    A Bevin spokeswoman said they received a copy of the order after the press conference and will determine if they will revoke it during the transition period.

    Mantell Stevens lost his voting rights about 15 years ago when he pleaded to a felony possession of a controlled substance charge. He served 30 days in jail and three years of probation, but now looks forward to casting his ballot.

    "It's a big step for democracy," said Stevens, 36, of Lexington, who attended the announcement.

    http://www.reuters.com/article/2015/11/24/kentucky-election-felons-idUSL1N13J1LD20151124
     
  2. HowieHasBeen

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    How did I know the Dems were pushing for this? :facepalm:
     
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    Yeah, Kentucky is a Liberal stronghold, didn't you hear?

    Kentucky for being a shitty state otherwise has implemented many prison reform programs all on their own.
     
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    I dont believe theyre going to be terribly well informed, no matter who they vote for.
     
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    What about the well educated white collar guys that went to federal prison over financial and tax shit?
     
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    Couldn't tell you if their vote would be any more informed, doesnt matter I dont want them voting either.
     
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    I figured it was only a matter of time until the democrats gave the vote to felons. What took so long. is Trump really making them THAT nervous?
     
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    because the dems tend to be the stupids.
     
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    Kentucky is a red state and will continue to be in 2016. Talking about low information people, wow.
     
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    Give Ronnie a chance
     
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    He is a democrat.

    He enacted it by executive order, not via legislature or judiciary.

    But, nothing to see here, right?

    My question is why he selected who he did to get their "rights" back. Seems like he only excluded those that he thought would hurt him in the polls. Why not limit to misdemeanors? Seems more realistic.
     
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    "Research shows that ex-felons who vote are less likely to commit new crime and return to prison. That's because if you vote, you tend to be more engaged in society."

    somebody paid somebody off to write that shit.
     
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    Not one of the losers I've evuh known voted.

    Jus' sayin'.

    (Do they really think they'll vote for Hillary?!!! :backlol:)
     
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    I think it's pretty reasonable. Our society doesn't exactly handle incarceration well.
     
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    one has nothing to do with the other.
     
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    And that's why the Dems added 170,000 new Dems to the voting list - to turn it blue.
     
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    The thing is maybe only 1 or 2 percent of them are going to bother to vote anyway.
    Criminals believe that everything is crooked and corrupt so why even bother to vote.
     
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    I know people who are felons due to drug use. Some have changed their life and I don't object to them voting.
     
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    I'm moving back to Kentucky....depriving the citizen of voting rights was initially used to nullify the votes of freed slaves, it was later used to deprive lower class whites, immigrants, Catholics
     
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    but the sudden influx of new registered democrats will force a re-districting with the associated revised allocation of state funds.