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Labor Unions destroying yet another American institution: Congrats NALC & APWU

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  1. 2Manboobs

    2Manboobs New Member Shot Dead

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    Lifetime Pensions & exorbitant salaries for unskilled workers strike yet another blow to American common sense.



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    Eighty percent of the Postal Service's annual budget goes toward employee salaries and benefits.
    By contrast, 61% of the United Parcel Service's budget goes to employee-related expenses. FedEx spends 43% of its annual budget on personnel costs.
    Bureau of Labor Statistics data indicate the average hourly compensation for postal union members is $41 versus $28 for the private sector.
    "Perhaps it's not surprising that the postal service's two primary rivals are more nimble," Leonard writes. "According to SJ Consulting Group, the USPS has more than a 15 percent share of the American express and ground-shipping market. FedEx has 32 percent, UPS 53 percent."


    ...Despite the agency's economic woes, the 250,000-member American Postal Workers Union negotiated a cushy labor deal with the USPS in March.....


    Read more: http://www.businessinsider.com/thin...re-it-goes-bankrupt-2011-5?op=1#ixzz2K8qqho3c


     
  2. Chriza

    Chriza You look like a tree! VIP

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    Jack in the Box is good
     
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    2Manboobs New Member Shot Dead

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    And cheap... Because they're NON-Union
     
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    2Manboobs New Member Shot Dead

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    "Thanks, Union!!"

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    mattyfishrip197 Well-Known Member VIP

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    :nooo::nooo::nooo::nooo:


    ooooga....boooooga
     
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    Ups is union. So bad example author.
     
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    It's not so much the union as it is bad business practices such as junk mail on Saturdays
     
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    MatthewT Awaiting The Rapture VIP

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    or, example of how even a bad thing, a free market union, is better than a worse thing, a government union

    post office is a monopoly, and can't make money :facepalm:
     
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    Do you have a pension 2man?
     
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    Agreed. Public sector unions r kinda silly.
     
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    2 man boobs is very angry at unions. Lulz.
     
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    BrulesRules Can I kick it?!?! VIP

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    Internet killed the postal worker star...
     
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    gwartney Naturally Autodidactic Gold

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    I don't know if this is true of all public sector unions but the one at my wife's gov employer is not mandatory. You don't even have to pay in to get the benefits and be represented. It's not even a large office and the union guy gets away with doing practically nothing but "union business".

    BTW, as some of you may know, I'm not anti-union at all but waste is waste.
     
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    Porn needs to be unionized.
     
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    They haven't been around as long...Give it time. We'll be talking about substantial alterations to UPS (due to salaries & pensions) in the not too distant future ... Hopefully they wont wind up toppling UPS like they've done to Hostess & so many others...
     
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    Junk mail has to pay postage dues, how is that a bad thing (for the post office, personally I hate junk mail)? :dontknow:
     
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    But unions are working so well for Argentina... :c
     
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    gwartney Naturally Autodidactic Gold

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    Since you didn't answer my question, I'm going to assume that you do indeed have a pension. Why is it ok for non-union people to have pensions and not for union people?

    Isn't it more of a mismanagement situation when a company spends more than it can afford?
     
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    The advertisements & real mail could be separated & dealt with fairly easily if they wanted to ...And that pales in comparison to the behemoth salary & pension expenditures
     
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    100 years ago blacksmiths stopped shoeing horses when cars came along.

    And relax, I'm sure the Chinese will be happy to give them jobs in a few years.
     

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