Entertainment Led Zeppelin being sued for Stairway to Heaven

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  1. njguy8

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    Same key on an acoustic. I would say half a rip off on the 30 seconds I listened
     
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    How many times are they going to go thru this? :jj:
     
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    If they have some video of one of the boys from zeppelin fucking bubba's wife, then they are in for a payday
     
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    The Blurred Lines ruling has opened a huge can of worms (whose two songs aren't even similar enough).

    Stairway is more of a ripoff than Blurred Lines.

    It's getting to the point that we are going to have to change some of these laws. We can't have everyone suing every song that becomes a big hit. There are thousands of songs that are more similar than Blurred Lines. We can't be using it as an example. This is the problem with putting laymen on a jury. They don't know anything about songwriting, composition, even the most basic theory.

    The chorus on the Sam Smith song is the same as the Tom Petty song (same chord progression and melody basically), so I see how there was a case there.

    I write songs, I know what I'm talking about.
     
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    Plant, Bob. :nojj:
     
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    Spirit and LZ played shows together years before LZ did stairway. Spirit played this song during those shows.........
     
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    They lost
     
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    Frivolous lawsuit is frivolous
     
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    well at lest they were quick about it
     
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    I call total, massive bullshit.
     
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    they obviously took good shit with limited draw and exposure and made it into fuckin fabulous famous shit.
    people bought and still buy original old blues music because they know about it because of zepp.
     
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    All popular music is formulaic.

     
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    the chord progression at the beginning of stairway is one of the most common in rock/pop music. They wanted a jury because those dummies (like wig) probably don't know that unless they play.
     
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    It sounds nothing like the original (and better) version:

     
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    This ^^^

    Rock (Blues based music) is popular music, which by definition, is simple. Simple musical grammar, syntax and transitions. Most music after the 50s actually employs the old "Tin Pan Alley" format (32 bar). That's why a relatively experienced player (drums, bass, guitar) can "drop in" on a set and figure things out quickly.

    This shit was being argued about back in the early 80s. Cannot believe this made it to a jury. Should have been thrown out on summary judgment. That said, if a bullshit money damages award is granted, I doubt any member of Zep is going to starve anytime soon.
     
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    They certainly ripped off Jake Holmes here. (Another person they played gigs with early on as The Yarbirds. I mean this is a straight up ripoff that Jimmy took credit for and it still says so on the lp credits) Having said all of this Led Zeppelin was one of the mightiest forces Rock and Roll ever produced.

    Jake Holmes-

     
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    Technically, a lot of those melodies they are singing aren't actually over that progression. But the melody still works over it, or parts of it. There is a basic scale that will work over those chords, so if the melody is in that scale, it will work....But yeah a lot of them are from songs with that progression...

    If you look at 50s oldies ballads you see the same type of thing, same progression, but a different melody...it started with the old song "Heart and Soul", then later on, stuff like "Earth Angel", "Angel Baby", "Blue Moon", etc..

    And I don't agree that "all" popular music is formulaic. The Beatles and the Beach Boys started out that way, but then later, they began to experiment and challenge themselves to try new things. And they were obviously popular.
     
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    Pretty fucking cut-and-dried to me. But a judge always has to be convinced first.