Michigan Porch Shooter - Guilty of Murder

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  1. BethSucks

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    http://www.cnn.com/2014/08/07/justice/michigan-porch-shooting-trial/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

    (CNN)
    -- A Michigan man accused of gunning down an unarmed young woman on his front porch in November was convicted Thursday of second-degree murder, manslaughter and possessing a firearm while committing a felony.

    Theodore Wafer, 55, faces a possible life prison term when sentenced on August 21. The jury deliberated for a little less than nine hours.

    feared for his life when loud banging startled him awake in the early morning hours of November 2, 2013. He opened his front door and fired a fatal shotgun blast into the face of Renisha McBride, 19, who prosecutors say was seeking help after a car accident.

    On Thursday, a judge ordered Wafer remanded to jail though the defense asked for house arrest.

    After the verdict, McBride's parents issued a statement thanking jurors. They said they were not surprised by the verdict.

    "She was a regular teenager," said her mother, Monica McBride. "She was well raised and brought up with a loving family, and her life mattered. And we showed that."

    Wafer took the stand Monday to describe feeling the floor vibrateunder his feet from the violent pounding on his front and kitchen doors. He said he couldn't find his cell phone to call 911, but retrieved his Mossberg 12-gauge shotgun from a closet and opened the front door at a quiet moment.

    "I was not going to cower. I didn't want to be a victim in my own house," he said. "I drew first, that's how I see it."

    McBride had a blood-alcohol level more than two times the legal limit at the time of her death and had smoked marijuana earlier in the evening, according to testimony.

    Witnesses said she crashed her vehicle into a parked car in Dearborn Heights, Michigan, just before 1 a.m. and wandered off disoriented and bloodied. Some three hours later, she lay dead on Wafer's porch.

    The incident sparked protest and was likened by some to the shooting of unarmed Florida teen Trayvon Martin in 2012.

    McBride, 5-feet-4-inches tall, was African-American. Wafer, who is white and stands at over 6 feet, was criminally charged more than two weeks after the incident. Wayne County Prosecutor Kym Worthy said then that race was not a factor in her office's decision-making on the case.

    In her closing argument earlier this week, defense attorney Cheryl Carpenter was the first to bring the issue of race before the jury. "It is not a race issue. And I'm going to say that word, because nobody has mentioned it. It isn't. Ted didn't know who this was," she said.

    "This man is the furthest thing from a racist," said Carpenter.

    While Wafer said at trial that he acted in self-defense when he shot McBride, he also said the shooting was accidental.

    Jurors saw a videotaped police interview with Wafer done only hours after the incident, where he told investigators he had forgotten the Mossberg 12-gauge was even loaded and meant only to scare off would-be intruders.

    Facing off with prosecutor Athina Siringas during a two-hour cross examination, Wafer said he must have disengaged the safety inadvertently and that his finger hit the trigger as a "total reflex reaction" when a figure suddenly appeared from the side as he stood in the doorway.

    "You either shot on purpose because you were in fear, or the gun went off accidentally. Which one is it?" asked Siringas.

    "I shot in fear," Wafer replied.

    "So that means you shot on purpose?"

    "Yes."

    Siringas' co-counsel, Patrick Muscat, suggested in his closing argument that Wafer invented the self-defense scenario to hedge his bets, because he'd realized an accidental killing could still get him convicted of murder in the second degree.

    A claim of self defense allows jurors to find a defendant not guilty if they find he acted in the "honest and reasonable" belief he was in danger of being killed or seriously injured, according to Michigan law.

    After the incident, Wafer told police he was angry and "full of piss and vinegar" when he opened the door that night, Muscat told the jury.
     
  2. landfill

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    He made the right choice.
     
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    Disappointing
     
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    People started predicting this when it became political and pressure was put on the police and prosecutors. It doesn't look like a fair trial.

    Something had to be done to satisfy the "community" after Travon trial in Florida.
     
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    civil trail will surely follow
     
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    A false statement, as a "community" is made up of people. These are animals, so I think they are more of a "pack," maybe a "herd."
     
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    ...kim worthy is a pretty ferocious prosecutor with lots of experience. i feel bad for the girl that was killed but she bares some responsibility here, nobody should be made to feel unsafe in their own home.
     
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    I'm going to hell for LOL'ing.......
     
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    I was trying to be polite and not cause more problems for the forum, if you know what I mean?? :censor:



    :apedance: :boobily::afro::chimp::damonk::brotha:
     
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    Does she bare enough responsibility to have been shot in the face and killed for it?
     
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    I wonder if it was bad when the guy testified that he was only trying to shoo away the porch monkey? :bigthink





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    I think this guy went over the line, but I dont know the full story.

    This bitch is drunk as fuck, high as a kite, and struck a car while driving all messed up that could have been a human being. Has his house been broken into before? Does he deal with these savages on a daily/weekly basis to make him fear for his safety? If the facts came out that, that was the case then this conviction is BS.

    Dont drink and fucking drive and certainly dont start banging on someones door and raving at some strange hour. I would be scared as hell if that happened and would certainly arm myself immediately. Couple that with continued banging and a history of breakin type issues? And im shooting.

    Who also knows whether she "wanted help" or was actually trying to break in?
     
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    Regardless, even if 100% justified no way he was getting off. Then the 13% cry baby minority would start marching, rampaging, and looting. This man is probably taking the fall to save dozens of white people from severe injuries should this jury have gone the other way. 13%, but with how much they bitch and commit violent acts you would swear they were the majority. They get pissed when only 1 in 10 of a pool of people on TV, in the office, etc. are black, but they are roughly 1 in 10 of the population. Couple that with how stupid and lazy they are and if a company has 1 out of 100 employees that is black thats a fucking progressive company.
     
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    Ohhhhhhhh. Stayin' on the down-low. I feel ya' my nig..., uh, my "homie."
     
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    She was a Porch Monkey.
     
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    ...just like anybody who does something reckless and something unintended and tragic happens many times people are tried and convicted under that premise because they should have known that their actions could have resulted in x. kind of what this guy was convicted on and the victim excused from her behavior that she should have known could have resulted in an unintended act of harm. she decided to get shit faced drunk and drive her car wrecking it then going to a house in the middle of the night (she didnt know it was the middle of the night because she thought it was cool to get shit faced and out of control) scaring the fuck out of a resident with her actions an unintelligible shouting. yes she should have known better. shes a adult just because shes black she doesnt get a pass, everybody has to take responsibility for the stupid shit they do.
     
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    This guy had no chance.

    If the sheboon pounds on the door and he hunkers down inside and she dies on his porch = He's a racist that guilty of willful negligence

    If the sheboon pounds on the door, he opens it unarmed or unable to defend himself = He's yet another victim that gets robbed and maybe killed

    If the sheboon pounds on the door, he opens it and shoots her when she tries to get in = He's a racist that gets 2nd degree murder

    Never had a chance. If it had been the other way around, and a black man would have shot a white woman....you would have never even heard about this case because everyone would have said "just another violent crime...they commit too many to keep track of".
     
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    After the wreck she was offered help and refused (believe she was bleeding) 3 hours later she shows up at the home where she was killed. No one knows what she was doing over the 3 hour period but her alcohol level was still .22. Her family says she was only seeking help but help was offered and turned down 3 hours earlier. A neighbor testified to hearing a sound like a tree falling on a car before the shooting. Renisha McBride lightly tapping on the door for help??? This guy had no chance. Look at the News and Free Press comment section, guilty because he shot a poor defenseless girl. It's unfortunate that she died but he did not go out looking to kill, she showed up at his home. It's surprising that she did not end up killing someone while driving that high.
     
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    This is total bullshit. It is his fault that she was high and drunk and chose to drive a car, wreck the car and then go bang on his door?? I am sure that she has a record as long as my arm. Manslaughter maybe....murder...no fucking way!!
     
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